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Old 02-16-2021, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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That has nothing to do with it. Income levels for every state rise almost every year because of inflation and cost of living. I posted data from the IRS last year that showed the average person leaving CT had a salary of over $100k and they were being replaced by an average of $60k salary. I seem to remember you said the source was from a CT hating website until I pointed out that they got their info straight from the IRS and even gave a direct link to the IRS website data. Just because CT's per capita income went up doesn't have anything to do with the FACT that higher income people are leaving CT and being replaced by people with lower incomes on average.
Please find that data. As I said and still maintain, if this was a real trend, you would see it in our income numbers and they just aren’t there.

Please remember that attrition is common in all states. This is where a worker moves up through the ranks in their job and retires at their peak income. Other workers move up to higher paying positions but new workers come in at lower salaries. This is common throughout the country and nothing new Jay

 
Old 02-16-2021, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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We are stagnant in population, but Jay the USA gains about 6-8% a decade, which means our share of the 385 seats up for grabs declines every ten years. That is why we dropped from 6 seats to 5 seats, while essentially keeping the population fairly flat. The nation was gaining.

In 2020, projections indicate we will maintain 5 total seats. In 2030, if we stay flat and nation gets usual 6-8% bump, we likely keep 4 of 5 seats.

Flat Ct vs increasing USA is the reason we once had 6, now have 5, likely have 4 after 2030 census.
Our state is the fourth most densely populated state in the country. I don’t think we need or want even more. How much more of our character do you want to see destroyed? I don’t want any more. Jay
 
Old 02-16-2021, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Our state is the fourth most densely populated state in the country. I don’t think we need or want even more. How much more of our character do you want to see destroyed? I don’t want any more. Jay
Yeah. I'd hate to see 6-8% population growth here. Bleh.

I'm more concerned about us maintaining our high quality of life, salary levels, etc. Which does depend on a strong business base, but pure population growth like in the south? No thanks.

Population decline WAS a concern, but it remains to be seen if the influx from the pandemic sticks.
 
Old 02-16-2021, 04:24 PM
 
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Our state is the fourth most densely populated state in the country. I don’t think we need or want even more. How much more of our character do you want to see destroyed? I don’t want any more. Jay
I don’t disagree with this re population and character, but it’s important to realize the correlation between population growth and long term income growth.

From a study done in Taiwan:

“The simulation results suggest that, in the short run, a stationary population produces significantly higher income per capita than rapid population growth; in the long run, however, rapid population growth produces a slightly higher income per capita.”

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12340242/
 
Old 02-16-2021, 04:31 PM
 
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Our state is the fourth most densely populated state in the country. I don’t think we need or want even more. How much more of our character do you want to see destroyed? I don’t want any more. Jay
That's nice, but we can't complain then when, we inevitably, lose Congressmen and lose even more clout nationally.

Its simply math. US goes up 6-8%, we stay flat, 385 seats shared based on state population/USA population.
 
Old 02-16-2021, 04:33 PM
 
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Yeah. I'd hate to see 6-8% population growth here. Bleh.

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Do you mind losing Congressional seats?
 
Old 02-16-2021, 04:38 PM
 
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Do you mind losing Congressional seats?
Better to lose Congressional seats than spend 3 hours in your car seat driving in traffic.
 
Old 02-16-2021, 04:39 PM
 
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Better to lose Congressional seats than spend 3 hours in your car seat driving in traffic.

Happy to see at least one person acknowledge the mutually exclusive choice this state faces.
 
Old 02-16-2021, 04:52 PM
 
Location: USA
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Yeah. I'd hate to see 6-8% population growth here. Bleh.

I'm more concerned about us maintaining our high quality of life, salary levels, etc. Which does depend on a strong business base, but pure population growth like in the south? No thanks.

Population decline WAS a concern, but it remains to be seen if the influx from the pandemic sticks.
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Better to lose Congressional seats than spend 3 hours in your car seat driving in traffic.
Amen, and one less politician in the state is good thing if you ask me.
 
Old 02-16-2021, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Better to lose Congressional seats than spend 3 hours in your car seat driving in traffic.
I agree.
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