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Old 08-02-2014, 10:29 PM
 
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3. Human beings and their safety should be more important to anyone than that of a dog. If that isn't the case for a particular individual than I suggest they reevaluate their value system.
I couldn't agree more. We have to prioritize life. The life of a human is more valuable than a dog. The life of a rich person is more valuable than a poor person. The life of a republican is more valuable than a Democrat.
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Old 08-02-2014, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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They should have called animal control. Unless he had some hard evidence that the kid was there and in imminent danger you cant just start shooting dogs and kicking doors in. Exigent circumstances I believe it's called.

But it's done. And as sad as it is, there's just no way to put a number on a pet's life. The guy should take the 10 grand and move on with life.
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Old 08-03-2014, 02:24 AM
 
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"Around 4:30 p.m., Salt Lake City Police Department reported that a 3- year-old boy named Kelby was missing from his home near 2500 South and Fillmore Street. He was found safe in his home just before 5 p.m.

As police searched for the toddler, an officer entered Sean Kendall's yard, felt Kendall's dog, Geist, was aggressive, and shot the dog, police said. Police can lawfully enter private yards during an emergency.

Kendall said Geist, a 110 pound Weimaraner, was his hiking buddy, sleeping partner and best friend."

Dog shot and killed during search for toddler | KSL.com


So the child was reported missing at 4:30 and found at 5:00, safe and sound at home. In between the neighbor's Weimaraner was shot.

Clearly, the house was not searched and as far as was reported, there was no reason to believe the child was in the backyard with the dog. What kind of search for a missing toddler involves going into random backyards and not searching the child's house and yard?

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Old 08-03-2014, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Currently living in Reddit
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This was some seriously incompetent police work.

If anything, I find Kendall's response and requests to be incredibly reasonable and subdued. If a cop entered my fenced yard and shot my dog under similar circumstances - not having conducted a thorough search of the kid's own house - I think I'd be considerably more upset than Kendall was.
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Old 08-03-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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In my world, my dog IS family. And a sister to, and the only friend of, my disabled child. You mess with that, I mess with you.
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Old 08-03-2014, 11:27 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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1. The officer was searching for a missing child and missing children often hide or are found in backyards. I consider a missing child case an emergency, or an exigency. In such a situation a policeman should knock on the door and ask permission to look in the backyard. However, if the homeowner is not available or doesn't answer I can't criticize the choice he made.

2. Whether the kids parents were "morons" or not is irrelevant to me. The point is the kid was missing and possibly in danger.

3. Human beings and their safety should be more important to anyone than that of a dog. If that isn't the case for a particular individual than I suggest they reevaluate their value system.

The one argument I am sort of sympathetic too is the notion that maybe there was a way to check out the backyard safely without shooting Geist. The officer said he was endangered by the actions of the animal though and I am inclined to believe him.

The measure of damages in all other cases for an animal that is killed is the replacement cost of the animal. Some may not like that, but that's the way it is.

I have nothing in particular against dogs, but I don't put them on the same value scale as a human being.
So ~ was the kid found in the dog's backyard? NO. Kid was found in his own home.

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This was some seriously incompetent police work.

If anything, I find Kendall's response and requests to be incredibly reasonable and subdued. If a cop entered my fenced yard and shot my dog under similar circumstances - not having conducted a thorough search of the kid's own house - I think I'd be considerably more upset than Kendall was.
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Old 08-03-2014, 12:37 PM
 
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People get the governments they deserve.

The consequence of apathy is a bureaucratic system that no longer fears the people its supposed to serve.
If Watergate had occurred today, Nixon wouldn't have resigned. He would've denied it and been re-elected, simply because the populace today is too busy/stupid/preoccupied/distracted by other things.

Is the Police Chief of Salt Lake City an elected position? Because if it is, he stated he's OK with this situation and the people of Salt Lake City re-elect him, they deserve this and all that follow. If it isn't and they aren't in their local government demanding policy change, they likewise deserve this and all that follow.

People get the governments, the police, the countries they deserve.
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Old 08-03-2014, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I don't understand why cops cannot carry tranquilizer guns for dealing with animals if they are going to storm someone's backyard. There is no excuse for trespassing and shooting someone's pet. I can see if they are on the street and attacked by an animal. But if they know they are going onto someone's property, they must be aware that many people keep pets there. Frankly, though I appreciate how dangerous a cop's job is, it does seem like there have been a huge amount of incidents recently of cops using guns, weapons and force when they did not need to. There seems to be an increasing abuse of power and force among some police.
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Old 08-03-2014, 01:26 PM
 
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I don't understand why cops cannot carry tranquilizer guns for dealing with animals if they are going to storm someone's backyard. There is no excuse for trespassing and shooting someone's pet. I can see if they are on the street and attacked by an animal. But if they know they are going onto someone's property, they must be aware that many people keep pets there. Frankly, though I appreciate how dangerous a cop's job is, it does seem like there have been a huge amount of incidents recently of cops using guns, weapons and force when they did not need to. There seems to be an increasing abuse of power and force among some police.
I have wondered this myself! They routinely use them on wild animals, bears in trees and such, why not domestic animals which are part of people's families?
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Old 08-03-2014, 03:31 PM
 
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I think the officer was in the right here and agree with you 100%.
Yes, he was such a good officer that he couldn't find the missing kid in the kid's own basement. What a brilliant cop he must have been.
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