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Old 04-18-2015, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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What if black women not try so hard to look like white women and allow their hair to be curly instead of wearing weaves or using chemicals to straighten it out. See blacks try to be white as well.
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Straight and/or wavy hair is not exclusive of Caucasians. I get the point you were trying to make but your example was a poor one.
Blacks that attempt to lighten their skin should be ashamed, but there are more whites that tan to become darker than there are blacks that lighten their skin...
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Old 04-18-2015, 10:25 PM
 
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Blacks that attempt to lighten their skin should be ashamed, but there are more whites that tan to become darker than there are blacks that lighten their skin...
Tanning is a social convention that originated amongst the upper classes to announce that they had free time to be out doing athletic things in the sun. It has nothing to do with black people.

Ironically, it is the opposite of the historic norm in which nobility wanted to be as light as possible to show that they weren't out in the fields working. It shows the change of things from the lower classes working mostly outdoors to working mostly indoors in factories and sweat shops.

Learn your history, get over yourself...all of that stuff your websites profess is good advice.
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Tanning is a social convention that originated amongst the upper classes to announce that they had free time to be out doing athletic things in the sun. It has nothing to do with black people.

Ironically, it is the opposite of the historic norm in which nobility wanted to be as light as possible to show that they weren't out in the fields working. It shows the change of things from the lower classes working mostly outdoors to working mostly indoors in factories and sweat shops.

Learn your history, get over yourself...all of that stuff your websites profess is good advice.
^they are right though... cultural history aside, more white people try to tan than black people try to lighten.
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Sugar Land, TX
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Wait, wasn't she like 5 when the Hunger Games came out? She's gotten so big. wow.

Anyways, as a black woman, I have to agree with everything she said. It seems that only once white people adopt something from another culture that it becomes cool or appropriate. When Kendall Jenner wore cornrolls the fashion world called her "daring", while that biracial girl on Disney was called crackhead or something on the E channel. smh.

This girl may be young, but she's wise beyond her years. I wish her the best of luck and prays she doesn't end up like those other washed up white starlets. (cough: Miley)
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:55 PM
 
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^they are right though... cultural history aside, more white people try to tan than black people try to lighten.
But it has nothing to do with "looking less white". Tanning is done to show you are part of the "leisure class", not because the tanning salon or beach-going crowd all want to be African American.

In Africa, the epidemic of whitening creams and pills is trying to look light-skinned and mixed race, or in racist systems like former South Africa to "pass" as white (or at least non-black).
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:58 PM
 
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Black women were wearing wigs and enhancing their appearance before they knew what a white woman was. @learn_your_history.com & @get_over_yourself
Are you sure about this? I will admit I am generally ignorant of the history of Sub-Saharan Africa, but I find it very hard to believe that it was common for West African tribal society to be using wigs and straighteners back then, before slavery.

I mean, it isn't very common in Africa even now. Why would it be super common back 500 years ago, with dirt-poor tribes in the African bush? They probably never even heard of a weave or human hair wig.
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Old 04-19-2015, 12:29 AM
 
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A large part of the music I like is definitely rooted in black culture...


Old school rap, blues, call and response music and spirituals (says the agnostic).
Don't forget rock and roll! Born from black people and rooted in black music/styles.

Also, about the wigs.

Why do people ignore the fact that Egyptians aka Africans aka black people wore wigs? Wow. Ugh the ignorance hurts me.

Also, Indians routinely whiten. It's apart of their culture. Yet no one gets on them, and now white people want to create a 'trend' from Indian culture and their heritage. Ugh. Americans are so weird and their soft racism. Yes, black people wore wigs WELL BEFORE they knew about caucasians. Africans did it! Other cultures lighten - why is it wrong that black people do it? You take EVERYTHING that is, essentially, black culture and damn it, and then try and pretend like you're not basing all of that damning from ignorance. You are! Maybe lightening is APART of black culture, too! What's so wrong with that?!

And blacks wore wigs and makeup long before they knew about caucasians, that's apart of their culture! And now suddenly you're damning them for paying homage to what's in their blood? What's apart of their culture? God.
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Old 04-19-2015, 04:09 AM
 
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What if black women not try so hard to look like white women and allow their hair to be curly instead of wearing weaves or using chemicals to straighten it out. See blacks try to be white as well.
While some black women actually prefer to straighten their hair, African hairstyles are usually frowned upon in the professional work force. Black women and men face criticism if woman's hair isn't straightened, or the man doesn't wear the "Barack Obama" hairstyle. A newscaster was scrutinized over her hairstyle a couple of years ago. Rhonda Lee, Weather Woman Fired Over Natural Hair, Has No Regrets | News One
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Old 04-19-2015, 05:14 AM
 
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I get so fired up when I read people being fired from jobs for wearing their hair naturally. Good for that news anchor for standing up for herself and defending the charity. I also can not believe the audacity of some people in complaining about another person's hair. Though I shouldn't be surprised...remember Jennifer Livingston and more recently, Kristi Gordon? People have no concern for others' feelings, refuse to use their manners and basically have no respect for other people.
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Old 04-19-2015, 05:38 AM
 
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^they are right though... cultural history aside, more white people try to tan than black people try to lighten.
As Giop said to Westmorland: "This is true. It is also irrelevant."

The two practices have nothing to do with each other.
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