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Old 04-22-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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When I heard about it on the news, and online, I missed that part. I only heard "migrants", and I don't jump to "they must be illegals".
So what you're saying is that you take what the media machine tells you at face value, never think more in depth about the choice of words (or omissions) they use, and never question anything you are told?
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Old 04-22-2015, 04:01 PM
 
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So what you're saying is that you take what the media machine tells you at face value, never think more in depth about the choice of words (or omissions) they use, and never question anything you are told?
I would hope most intelligent people evaluate things critically and take the media with a grain of salt. By that token, I hope your critical thinking skills go both ways, not just in those issues to which you might be biased. We're all human, and undoubtedly have our biases, but some of us way more than others. In the end, I choose humaneness over suspicion when I can. That's how I'd want others to be with me.
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Old 04-22-2015, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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I think it is sad whenever young children die. Their parents' choices are not their fault.
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Old 04-22-2015, 04:08 PM
 
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I didn't realize they were illegal immigrants. When I heard about it on the news, and online, I missed that part. I only heard "migrants", and I don't jump to "they must be illegals". That being said, I still think it is a tragedy, and those people had families that miss them. Some people on this forum totally lack empathy. How do you know if you came form a war torn country that you wouldn't risk your life to migrate?
That's because the politically correct media usually strips "illegal" from the phrase "illegal immigrants". If they were immigrating legally I would think they would be arriving by more conventional means.
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Old 04-22-2015, 04:10 PM
 
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In the end, I choose humaneness over suspicion when I can. That's how I'd want others to be with me.
I choose logic and common sense. Tell me when you have EVER heard of 900 LEGAL immigrants arriving in a country in an overcrowded private boat?
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Old 04-22-2015, 04:21 PM
 
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oceangaia, that is a good point. I don't defend jumping borders illegally, but I still think it's a sad thing to happen to those people.
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Old 04-22-2015, 04:27 PM
 
Location: California → Tennessee → Ohio
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The sea is an unforgiving place!
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Old 04-22-2015, 08:06 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/21/wo...izes.html?_r=0

This is very sad news indeed. I made this thread to see what others felt about this matter.
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I know this will sound callous, but I find it hard to work up too much concern about this. Europe is being invaded by Third World barbarians who are bent on subjugating or killing the indigenous inhabitants and eradicating their culture and instead imposing their own backwards way of life. If some of these invaders die in the attempt, it can only be a benefit to Europe.
It is always tempting to want the happy ending, with the warm puppy thrown in . No one likes the idea of people drowning. It is obvious that Europe cannot and will not assimilate these people. If they are rescued they will inevitably wind up coming to the some of the same places that took the Vietnamese boat people, that is the U.S. Canada and Australia. The healthier policy, unfortunately, is to make it public knowlege that getting on a boat may lead to death, not a free pass to the West. The way I see it virtually the entire continent of Africa (except maybe South Africa) and much of the Levant couild depopulate and the people wind up in the West. We have no place for 2 billion people even though that is probably the number being subject to misery or worse by their governments or societies.

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The Europeans need to send proper ships to shuttle these people from Africa to Europe.
Do you want to house them?
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Old 04-22-2015, 08:13 PM
 
Location: in my mind
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Human migration is the reason there are people living on North America, and its normal for humans to move to find a better life for themselves.

Incidents like this make me wonder what decisions I would make if I was just an innocent person born into a war-torn, poverty-stricken region.

I don't believe there are any easy answers.
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Old 04-22-2015, 08:30 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Human migration is the reason there are people living on North America, and its normal for humans to move to find a better life for themselves.

Incidents like this make me wonder what decisions I would make if I was just an innocent person born into a war-torn, poverty-stricken region.

I don't believe there are any easy answers.
The difference is that your ancestors knew no on e in the U.S. would take care of them. They were coming fully expecting to be on their own.
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