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Maybe, but the results address adverse reactions. Um, you can read, yes? What I copied is actually included in the link. Maybe you'll have to scroll further. I don't know why you can't see it. It's all in there.
You're very patient. Reading would require admitting they're wrong.
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You're in denial.
All this pesky science is interfering with the anti-vax fiction. If they can't or won't read and continue to post information that is proven to be wrong no wonder mandates are necessary.
If all you care about is "choice" why do you need to make up risks that don't exist? Vaccines are far far far far (add a few more if you'd like) safer than the diseases they prevent. Thousands of studies and thousand and thousands of vaccinations prove this. You may not like that fact, but it is unequivocal and proven.
Sorry, you're wrong.
Worse yet, you know it. Instead of accepting the science you rabidly chase irrelevant squirrels that have nothing to do with vaccine safety.
If you hate science so much, why do you even want your kid in public school? They are not only going to have to learn biology, but you're not going to be able to "choose" the curriculum.
Maybe, but the results address adverse reactions. Um, you can read, yes? What I copied is actually included in the link. Maybe you'll have to scroll further. I don't know why you can't see it. It's all in there.
Obviously I can read. Didn't see what you shared. Sorry for asking for clarification. I don't see where your link says what you think it says and neither does Katonjj.
It is interesting to note the names on the top of that paper.
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You're very patient. Reading would require admitting they're wrong.
All this pesky science is interfering with the anti-vax fiction. If they can't or won't read and continue to post information that is proven to be wrong no wonder mandates are necessary.
If all you care about is "choice" why do you need to make up risks that don't exist? Vaccines are far far far far (add a few more if you'd like) safer than the diseases they prevent. Thousands of studies and thousand and thousands of vaccinations prove this. You may not like that fact, but it is unequivocal and proven.
Sorry, you're wrong.
Worse yet, you know it. Instead of accepting the science you rabidly chase irrelevant squirrels that have nothing to do with vaccine safety.
If you hate science so much, why do you even want your kid in public school? They are not only going to have to learn biology, but you're not going to be able to "choose" the curriculum.
Did you click on Leebeemi's link? if so why not show us where her quotes are coming from.
While you sit around shouting about science, girls all over the world are being seriously injured by the HPV vaccine. Maybe one day "science" will finally admit what all those injured girls and their parents have been trying to convey for years and your precious science" will say, "oops". Maybe you, your children or your grandchildren will be among the injured and ignored. I'm not going to sit around and wait for authorities to tell me something that is already obvious to anyone with a brain and their eyes wide open. Enjoy your nap.
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Your link is 3 years out of date. The statement attributed to Harper that the vaccine wears off after 5 years is incorrect. People who have been vaccinated are still protected at ten years with no evidence that protection is waning.
Do you have any evidence that Merck in any way altered the results of the study? I didn't think so.
All of the potential conflicts of interest are clearly described at the end of the paper. Merck provided funding (it is their vaccine, after all), but if you think the results are invalid you have to show us why.
There were 2 serious adverse events in the vaccine group, neither attributed to the vaccine, and two in the placebo group.
I dare you to say that to the thousands of girls and their families who have had serious injuries from the vaccine. They are not all imagining the connection.
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Your link is 3 years out of date. The statement attributed to Harper that the vaccine wears off after 5 years is incorrect. People who have been vaccinated are still protected at ten years with no evidence that protection is waning.
Show us the proof that the vaccine lasts 10 years.
Or maybe it's because the adjuvants (aluminum in this case) are a huge part of the problem with the vaccine. Merck clouded the results of the placebo groups reactions with the aluminum (placebo) which skewed the numbers. It's really dishonest. Gardasil clinical trials -- Placebo
The saline placebo results were much different then the "placebo" containing the adjuvants. Serious adverse reactions remain ignored to this day.
I really should have figured. I read your "article", If you'd call it that. Anyone who is reading this might be interested to know that source is an ultra-conservative rag known as "Renew America". To give you an idea where this magazine is coming from there are articles on impeaching the President and supporting just about every right wing cause there is. One of my favorite articles asserts that "The homosexual movement is destroying our freedom". Alan Keyes, a sort of mothballed conservative politician whose only claim to fame is that he is a "black republican" features prominently. The article you wrote is from a woman who calls herself a "freelance journalist" who presumably has no background in science or statistics because if she did, she would say so. I guess, for you, this constitutes an "authoritative source".
I think of all trouble some of us have taken here to quote the Journal of the American Medical Association, the New England Journal of Medicine, the Center for Disease Control, the Food and Drug Administration, and other first rate sources only to have you discount what we say on the basis that we can't trust government, etc. I never hear you explain why non-government medical journal articles would be unreliable.
So, this is the kind of place you get your information from. I'm starting to understand.
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Originally Posted by MissTerri
I dare you to say that to the thousands of girls and their families who have had serious injuries from the vaccine. They are not all imagining the connection.
Show us the proof that the vaccine lasts 10 years.
And, once again, you fail to show anything resembling proof for an astonishing (and ridiculous) statement.
I really should have figured. I read your "article", If you'd call it that. Anyone who is reading this might be interested to know that source is an ultra-conservative rag known as "Renew America". To give you an idea where this magazine is coming from there are articles on impeaching the President and supporting just about every right wing cause there is. One of my favorite articles asserts that "The homosexual movement is destroying our freedom". Alan Keyes, a sort of mothballed conservative politician whose only claim to fame is that he is a "black republican" features prominently. The article you wrote is from a woman who calls herself a "freelance journalist" who presumably has no background in science or statistics because if she did, she would say so. I guess, for you, this constitutes an "authoritative source".
I think of all trouble some of us have taken here to quote the Journal of the American Medical Association, the New England Journal of Medicine, the Center for Disease Control, the Food and Drug Administration, and other first rate sources only to have you discount what we say on the basis that we can't trust government, etc. I never hear you explain why non-government medical journal articles would be unreliable.
So, this is the kind of place you get your information from. I'm starting to understand.
I get my information from a very wide variety of sources. The info I shared is relevant. You are the one claiming to only trust info from a very small handful of sources of which has already been shown that they are not nearly as credible or trustworthy as people are led to believe. Who is closed minded? Who is biased? Its not me.
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And, once again, you fail to show anything resembling proof for an astonishing (and ridiculous) statement.
I shared the stories of numerous girls who have been injured from the HPV vaccine in this thread like this video for instance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO2i-r39hok Don't blame me for your unwillingness to look into info shared.
Did you click on Leebeemi's link? if so why not show us where her quotes are coming from.
While you sit around shouting about science, girls all over the world are being seriously injured by the HPV vaccine. Maybe one day "science" will finally admit what all those injured girls and their parents have been trying to convey for years and your precious science" will say, "oops". Maybe you, your children or your grandchildren will be among the injured and ignored. I'm not going to sit around and wait for authorities to tell me something that is already obvious to anyone with a brain and their eyes wide open. Enjoy your nap.
Repeat post. Absolutely unequivocally false, evidence has been provided many many times.
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Originally Posted by MissTerri
I dare you to say that to the thousands of girls and their families who have had serious injuries from the vaccine. They are not all imagining the connection.
Show us the proof that the vaccine lasts 10 years.
Repeat post. Absolutely unequivocally false, evidence has been provided many many times.
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Originally Posted by MissTerri
I get my information from a very wide variety of sources. The info I shared is relevant. You are the one claiming to only trust info from a very small handful of sources of which has already been shown that they are not nearly as credible or trustworthy as people are led to believe. Who is closed minded? Who is biased? Its not me.
I shared the stories of numerous girls who have been injured from the HPV vaccine in this thread like this video for instance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO2i-r39hok Don't blame me for your unwillingness to look into info shared.
Absolutely unequivocally false, evidence has been provided many many times.
You know what is true? That dying of cancer and other vaccine preventable diseases is far worse than fainting or a sore arm. You ignore established credible peer reviewed science (studies replicated by those with no pecuniary interest) in favour of ultraconservative drivel. Stories are stories. Science and proof are evidence.
I dare you to say that to the thousands of girls and their families who have had serious injuries from the vaccine. They are not all imagining the connection.
Without any evidence to support a connection between the symptoms those girls have and the vaccine, the parents are mistaken that the vaccine has caused any injury. I am sorry those girls are ill, but their problems are not due to Gardasil. There is too much evidence otherwise.
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Show us the proof that the vaccine lasts 10 years.
It was in post #4553, which you apparently found too difficult to read:
"How long does vaccine protection last?
Research suggests that vaccine protection is long-lasting. Current studies have followed vaccinated individuals for ten years, and show that there is no evidence of weakened protection over time." That's ten years and still going strong, not ten years and waning.
Dr. Jen Gunter discusses what would happen if the vaccine suddenly just did not work after ten years (which is not happening):
If the HPV vaccine's effectiveness is at some point found to be waning, the simple solution is a booster.
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Originally Posted by MissTerri
I get my information from a very wide variety of sources. The info I shared is relevant. You are the one claiming to only trust info from a very small handful of sources of which has already been shown that they are not nearly as credible or trustworthy as people are led to believe. Who is closed minded? Who is biased? Its not me.
I shared the stories of numerous girls who have been injured from the HPV vaccine in this thread like this video for instance. Don't blame me for your unwillingness to look into info shared.
Perhaps you would be more credible if you shared those sources with us. So far you have refused to do so. We can only conclude they are nonexistent. The sources I and others have used are far more credible than your "wide variety of [unnamed] sources". Internet stories are not credible sources. That seems to be all you have.
Internet anecdotes are not data. Properly performed studies of participants who have received HPV vaccines are not demonstrating any serious adverse effects at all.
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The link you shared is about efficacy.
