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Old 10-14-2015, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Are you going to have a different decision now?
I have always been in favor of responsible hunting ...
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Yes....

But does not lead to you opinion above....

No doubt, except now, the millions of people, including you, have been proven wrong....the dentist was NOT wrong....however, can you state who was?
Well …

The dentist has not (yet) been arrested and charged … So what … ???

"O. J." was acquitted at trial, and so was William "Slick Willie" Jefferson Clinton … That is not the same thing as being found "godly" …
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:41 AM
 
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No. Not even close. Zimbabwe has a big game hunting industry that supports over 800,000 of it's citizens in all walks of life. Americans, as well as people from all over the world, come there to support it financially, and use the service they provide. In essence, they have a product and a service that everyone else wants, and is willing to purchase at quite a high price. End of story. How is any of this a ... "corrupting influence"?
Lots of people in Latin America depend upon the financial resources funneled their way via the international drug trade … That means it is *okay* … ???
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Glendale, Arizona
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Lots of people in Latin America depend upon the financial resources funneled their way via the international drug trade … That means it is *okay* … ???
Drugs are illegal. Big game hunting is not. One has nothing to do with the other. Getting pretty desperate, aren't we?
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:51 AM
 
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Drugs are illegal. Big game hunting is not. One has nothing to do with the other. Getting pretty desperate, aren't we?
Lots of things are "legal" despite being ethically *dicey* …

Can you say, "tobacco companies and their marketing practices and products" … ???

What William "Slick Willie" Jefferson Clinton enjoyed with his young intern was "legal," too … and that means it was *okay* … ??? Really … ???
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Glendale, Arizona
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Well …

The dentist has not (yet) been arrested and charged … So what … ???

"O. J." was acquitted at trial, and so was William "Slick Willie" Jefferson Clinton … That is not the same thing as being found "godly" …
He has not, and will not be charged. Nor will he be. He committed no crime. This comes straight from the government of Zimbabwe, not him or his attorney. Both Clinton and Simpson were formally charged with crimes. Big difference. You continue to compare legal apples and oranges. All in an attempt to draw some obscure parallel line. It's not working.

Palmer did nothing wrong. He was never charged with a crime, period. The government of Zimbabwe has publically admitted to that, just as Palmer himself has said from the beginning. Now it is all established fact. Palmer is no more guilty of anything involving illegal hunting than you are. It's not only over.... It never started, simply because there was never anything there.
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Old 10-14-2015, 08:03 AM
 
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He has not, and will not be charged. Nor will he be. He committed no crime. This comes straight from the government of Zimbabwe, not him or his attorney. Both Clinton and Simpson were formally charged with crimes. Big difference. You continue to compare legal apples and oranges. All in an attempt to draw some obscure parallel line. It's not working.

Palmer did nothing wrong. He was never charged with a crime, period. The government of Zimbabwe has publically admitted to that, just as Palmer himself has said from the beginning. Now it is all established fact. Palmer is no more guilty of anything involving illegal hunting than you are. It's not only over.... It never started, simply because there was never anything there.
Again … The practices of guys like the dentist -- and the "industry" such guys support -- is IMHO ethically *dicey* even when it is "legal" (again, think: "Big Tobacco") …

And, no … "Slick Willie" was not impeached and tried for what he and Monica did, but for "Obstruction of Justice" … perjury …
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Old 10-14-2015, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Glendale, Arizona
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Lots of things are "legal" despite being ethically *dicey* …

Can you say, "tobacco companies and their marketing practices and products" … ???

What William "Slick Willie" Jefferson Clinton enjoyed with his young intern was "legal," too … and that means it was *okay* … ??? Really … ???
Again, you're missing the point entirely. You are trying to convict him for doing something totally legal. This on the basis of the fact you personally don't like it. Too bad. Don't hunt. Same with oral sex. If you don't like it, don't do it. Same with smoking. If you're offended by it, don't smoke.

You're problem is, like most liberals, you want to regulate what people do based on what you think they should do. The world doesn't revolve around what your version of morality is, or what you happen to think is "dicey".
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Old 10-14-2015, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Again, you're missing the point entirely. You are trying to convict him for doing something totally legal. This on the basis of the fact you personally don't like it. Too bad. Don't hunt. Same with oral sex. If you don't like it, don't do it. Same with smoking. If you're offended by it, don't smoke.

You're problem is, like most liberals, you want to regulate what people do based on what you think they should do. The world doesn't revolve around what your version of morality is, or what you happen to think is "dicey".
So in your world, nothing is unethical or immoral -- or just plain WRONG -- unless it is also "illegal" … ???

(BTW, I am indeed "Liberal" on some questions and markedly "Conservative" on others … So that is not the issue here …)
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Old 10-14-2015, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Glendale, Arizona
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So in your world, nothing is unethical or immoral -- or just plain WRONG -- unless it is also "illegal" … ???

(BTW, I am indeed "Liberal" on some questions and markedly "Conservative" on others … So that is not the issue here …)
There are things I don't care for. I simply don't do them, or engage with people who do. Be they legal or otherwise. The difference is I believe in live and let live. That is not in the liberal vocabulary. There is nothing "wrong" or "unethical" with, or about hunting. It is a sport / activity that is as old as man itself, that is enjoyed by millions of people around the world. It is not "immoral", regardless of how much you want to try and make it so. Nor is it "dicey", (whatever that means)? If you simply don't like it, then say that and move on. But that's impossible for liberals like yourself to do. You feel you need to put a stop to anything you don't like, while at the same time ramming everything you do, down everyone else's throat.

It's no different with guns. If you, (liberals), don't like guns, or want to own guns, or wish to carry a gun, that's fine. No one is forcing you to. But people like yourself can't stop at that. Instead you want to strip everyone else's rights away, and force them to give up their freedoms, in order to live under your ideological umbrella. That is not how life in a free society works. Or hunting in Zimbabwe, or anywhere else for that matter.
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