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So if someone accidentally refers to an employee or coworker who only recently returned to work after a full sex change, for example, or has recently revealed him or herself to be transgender, by the wrong name or pronoun, they can be fined? Or is it just those who do so with malicious intent? But how do you distinguish the two and decide what was malicious (someone could be saying so ironically or sarcastically, deadpan like and not actually hurtful, but have intent) and what was innocent? Digging yourselves a hole, New York. Sometimes I'm ashamed to live in this metro and call this my city. Like when de Blasio was elected... I wasn't proud to me from here then. Not proud now.
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If anyone has noticed all the bigotry, derrogatory names, misgendering and outright hatred of trans people on CD and the near daily threads on the topic which seems to consume so many, and the fact that like 30 TG people have been murdered this year alone, then quite probably this law is necessary to provide some tiny protections from the hate. I for one welcome it.
If anyone has noticed all the bigotry, derrogatory names, misgendering and outright hatred of trans people on CD and the near daily threads on the topic which seems to consume so many, and the fact that like 30 TG people have been murdered this year alone, then quite probably this law is necessary to provide some tiny protections from the hate. I for one welcome it.
I agree with the you, but IMHO a law like this is the beginning of a slippery slope.
The New York City Commission on Human Rights has issued rules that fine employers for referring to transsexuals by their real gender.
The new “guidance” (“NYC Pronoun Ban”), which has power to levy hefty fines against “violators” who “discriminate,” is an extension of the New York City Human Rights Law, based on the city’s laws against gender discrimination.
So if someone accidentally refers to an employee or coworker who only recently returned to work after a full sex change, for example, or has recently revealed him or herself to be transgender, by the wrong name or pronoun, they can be fined? Or is it just those who do so with malicious intent? But how do you distinguish the two and decide what was malicious (someone could be saying so ironically or sarcastically, deadpan like and not actually hurtful, but have intent) and what was innocent? Digging yourselves a hole, New York. Sometimes I'm ashamed to live in this metro and call this my city. Like when de Blasio was elected... I wasn't proud to me from here then. Not proud now.
It is PC coercion, plain and simple.
If you are a bio woman and then suddenly claim to be a man, guess what, I will never call you a man, nor refer to you in the male tense. That is not malicious on my part, it is just me keeping with reality, not PC make believe.
I would do the same if someone claimed to be a unicorn, and wanted to be referred to as one. It is just not going to happen, and if the PC speech police tried to enforce it, I'd see them in court. Assuming Obama and his ilk have not replaced all the sane judges with liberal wackos, I'd win sooner or later.
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^^^ There is the perfect example of why this law is needed. The absolute bigotry - and yes it IS malicious by many people. Why do you people even care what a trans person does? Why would you choose to intentionally cause pain to another, particularly someone you don't know.
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It is rotten to protect people who are singled out for attack both verbally and physically? People can't even be nice here in a forum, I can't imagine what the reality in NY must be.
Just when we thought this old world couldn't get much nuttier!
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Digging yourselves a hole, New York. Sometimes I'm ashamed to live in this metro and call this my city. Like when de Blasio was elected... I wasn't proud to me from here then. Not proud now. 
