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Old 11-22-2016, 07:46 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Fortunately she is evidently being released. The publicity should be a warning to future travelers.
This is good news. Not good news that rapists aren't viewed as criminals there, though.
BTW, were the men married? Does no one care about their adulterous behavior?
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Old 11-22-2016, 07:59 PM
 
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It's sad watching people trying to excuse the laws and treatment of women (and others) in a foreign country because of motivations undoubtably linked to taking sides over the debate about immigration from countries like that.


What does this have anything to do with Muslim immigration. I would be very surprised if any UAE citizens are wanting to immigrate to Europe or United States.
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Old 11-22-2016, 09:35 PM
 
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You seem to be hung up on the word "fault".

My parents drilled into me (I am male, if that is of any relevance) all the things to stay away from when in college. I followed their advice and led a trouble-free life. I suppose that I should've listened to wizards like you and done dangerous things and used the excuse "But it wasn't my FAULT!" when I got into trouble.
Take it easy with the ridiculousness. Smiling at someone isn't "dangerous things"
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Old 11-23-2016, 02:09 AM
 
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By that I meant alot of people think its all desert and bombed out building. While women's rights are still big issue in many places, people tend to assume its all the same throughout the entire middle east. It isn't.

Having lots of modern skyscrapers & an indoor snow skiing facility does not bring a country out of the dark ages regarding women.
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Old 11-23-2016, 09:46 AM
 
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Having lots of modern skyscrapers & an indoor snow skiing facility does not bring a country out of the dark ages regarding women.
Where did I say it did?

Love when people put words in a post that just aren't there....
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Old 11-23-2016, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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In an update on BBC TV news in the U.K., all charges have been dismissed against the woman, BUT, the Dubai Public Prosecutor's office has now issued a statement saying that the "act" occurred with the consent of all three participants!
I'd have been inclined to believe that they would still have seen that as adultery, but perhaps there's a loophole for a threeway.
What I had read yesterday was that if CCTV had caught the three walking into the room, it would be considered consensual and not rape -- despite whatever transpired behind a closed hotel room door. Images of her being dragged kicking and fighting would have made her accusation of rape more probable.

At least the charges were dismissed but that doesn't change anything. There's nothing to prove that it was or wasn't rape; there's only the Dubai Public Prosecutor's office statement. I can only guess that since women aren't looked upon as equals that they viewed this as two men sharing a lesser female as opposed to a three-way.
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Old 11-23-2016, 04:03 PM
 
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By that I meant alot of people think its all desert and bombed out building. While women's rights are still big issue in many places, people tend to assume its all the same throughout the entire middle east. It isn't.
No, they do not.

When you enter into countries where women may or may not be allowed to drive a car, you need to know what you're getting yourself into.

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Traveling to many of these counties is not only a travel in space, but a travel back in time.





Well said.
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Old 11-24-2016, 06:58 AM
 
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BTW, were the men married? Does no one care about their adulterous behavior?
Don't you know that women entice men who cannot control themselves, and that it's not their fault if they indulge?

This is the whole idea behind the hijab and burka, and general modest dress. Cover women up so they don't look too sexy and entice men. Blame is not at all placed on the men. It's sick. Then they are funny enough to say that wearing the hijab is a "choice." Perhaps it is, but it's a choice based on archaic and sexist views on women and sexuality. The basis of covering the woman's body and even hair is so men won't want to have sex with her. Because men apparently can't control themselves, we'll make the women suffer. Makes perfect sense.

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Old 11-24-2016, 07:55 AM
 
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What does this have anything to do with Muslim immigration. I would be very surprised if any UAE citizens are wanting to immigrate to Europe or United States.
because they're Muslim and the complaints have been backwards views on women and gays and other religions.
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Old 11-25-2016, 06:22 PM
 
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What does this have anything to do with Muslim immigration. I would be very surprised if any UAE citizens are wanting to immigrate to Europe or United States.
Mathguy is exactly right. It has plenty to do with Muslim immigration to the West. Some people in this thread are tripping over their virtual tongues to either blame the victim or excuse the caveman-like laws of the Middle East. Most of them are the same people who advocate for more "Syrian" migrants in Europe and the US.
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