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Old 06-17-2017, 01:28 PM
 
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Under the actual circumstances she would never have gotten a significant hearing if not for Cosby. No DA is going to waste his time on a months old allegation of sexual assault with no evidence and wrong dates and continued contact with the bad guy. This case is strictly celebrity justice.
Didn't she have continued contact with him because it was part of her job to have communication with him? She didn't have a choice in having contact with him short of quitting her job - and why should rape require her to quit her job?
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Old 06-17-2017, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Didn't she have continued contact with him because it was part of her job to have communication with him? She didn't have a choice in having contact with him short of quitting her job - and why should rape require her to quit her job?
And if he was merely a big donor? And she waited months to bring it to the police?

She might have made it stick for 3 or 4 days. As she went past that time frame her probability of getting any police action rapidly approached zero.

She solicited tickets to a show and stuff from Cosby after the incident.

She got a civil settlement which is all she could expect the way she handled it. This is simply celebrity justice.
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Old 06-17-2017, 01:40 PM
 
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And if he was merely a big donor? And she waited months to bring it to the police?

She might have made it stick for 3 or 4 days. As she went past that time frame her probability of getting any police action rapidly approached zero.

She solicited tickets to a show and stuff from Cosby after the incident.

She got a civil settlement which is all she could expect the way she handled it. This is simply celebrity justice.
It's celebrity justice in the same way that OJ Simpson got celebrity justice. She was raped, she reported it, Cosby gave her money to keep her quiet. He drugged a lesbian and had sexual intercourse with her without her consent. That's rape by all definitions. The fact that the jury refused to acknowledge that rape is defined by drugging a woman to have sex suggests that someone on the jury was star struck.
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Old 06-17-2017, 01:48 PM
 
Location: tampa bay
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Soooo... I don't want to put words in your mouth, but are you saying you have pre-judged Cosby's guilt? Are you now prejudiced against him?
I'm not on his jury...I'm on a forum...I will forever be "prejudiced" against him...not for the color of his skin but the content of his character...at best he was a serial cheater at worst a rapist...no bueno in my book...
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Old 06-17-2017, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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It's celebrity justice in the same way that OJ Simpson got celebrity justice. She was raped, she reported it, Cosby gave her money to keep her quiet. He drugged a lesbian and had sexual intercourse with her without her consent. That's rape by all definitions. The fact that the jury refused to acknowledge that rape is defined by drugging a woman to have sex suggests that someone on the jury was star struck.
Nope. He says she says and there are reports she discussed with another University employee shaking down a celebrity.

We just saw the outcome of a trial of her case...and it came out badly for the prosecutor given the vast testimony against Cosby flooding the system. And I doubt Cosby will ever do any time even if convicted in another trial. Between appeals and medical it is not going to happen. So this is all good old political showmanship.
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Old 06-17-2017, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Or a very practical realist who actually knows her man.
And knows what he did.
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Old 06-17-2017, 02:04 PM
 
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It baffles me that anyone would believe that a man can allege that consensual sex occurred with a woman who was deliberately drugged for the purpose of sex, yet this is what Cosby's lawyers claim and what the jury was unable to process.
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Old 06-17-2017, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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It baffles me that anyone would believe that a man can allege that consensual sex occurred with a woman who was deliberately drugged for the purpose of sex, yet this is what Cosby's lawyers claim and what the jury was unable to process.
Women have sex drugged to one degree or another all the time. Sometimes very pleasant. Alcohol and pot are the common ones. Every indication she took the drug knowingly. There is an issue of the he said she said sort about what drug it was. But whether or not she remained conscious or competent is also in the he said she said column.

So basically the standard he said she said dispute...and she destroyed her credibility by her actions and changes of testimony. So no they cannot convict Cosby because of reasonable doubt.
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Old 06-17-2017, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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By the time they take this case back to trial, the defendant will be in a neck brace and a wheelchair pulled by a seeing-eye dog.
Gummin a puddin pop
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Old 06-17-2017, 02:41 PM
 
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Women have sex drugged to one degree or another all the time. Sometimes very pleasant. Alcohol and pot are the common ones. Every indication she took the drug knowingly. There is an issue of the he said she said sort about what drug it was. But whether or not she remained conscious or competent is also in the he said she said column.

So basically the standard he said she said dispute...and she destroyed her credibility by her actions and changes of testimony. So no they cannot convict Cosby because of reasonable doubt.
This was not a situation where a lesbian smoked a joint, drank some alcohol, and suddenly decided she wanted to have sex with an old man. This is not a "he said, she said". This is a straight forward case of a man drugging a young lesbian to have sex without her consent. There's no doubt that this happened, so how can one reasonably doubt Cosby's statement that he drugged women for the purpose of having sex? If women want to have sex, they don't need to be drugged. Drugging is used to confuse and incapacitate women in order to omit the need for consent.

There's no question that he gave her quaaludes, which can cause mental confusion and loss of muscle control.

"The revelation this week that Bill Cosby admitted under oath to buying quaaludes to give to young women to have sex rocked the entertainment world and added fuel to the allegations that the comedian had drugged and sexually assaulted several women."

Bill Cosby: Why He Admitted Under Oath to Getting Drugs to Use for Sex | Time.com
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