Coronavirus in DFW - News & Discussion (Dallas, China: Asian, converting)

[serger]

Originally Posted by CDContribuitor

I am not able to locate what you are referring to. Can you please post here the exact source/article that you are seeing this information?
"Texas tribune shows about 300 for the whole North/Central TX. The Dallas county data shows only about 150 ICU beds available.:

On the texas tribune site you hover on the map (hospital beds in use by region). Now it shows even less available.

And Dallas county ICU data was in that .pdf

[move4ward]

Originally Posted by serger

On the texas tribune site you hover on the map (hospital beds in use by region). Now it shows even less available.

And Dallas county ICU data was in that .pdf

Is the max ICU capacity updated to include the new ICU beds that have been added at many hospitals? The numbers will be hard to line up, if they are assuming bed counts are static.

[colts01]

There is a disconnect between number of healthcare professionals available/displaced due to Covid and Covid related additional hospital requirement. Reason being a lot of healthcare professional might be working in clinic setting and may not have required hospital experience/certifications.

Another reason is every hospital system (Baylor, Presbyterian etc) have there one systems/protocols in place and it is a costly/time consuming exercise to bring in additional resources for a short while.

[move4ward]

Nueces County Medical Examiner's office ran out of capacity for corpse storage. They are asking FEMA for a trailer and additional body bags. This reminds me of what happened in other counties. Will Dallas get to this point next month?

KRIST 6 News - Corpus Christi local TV news station
https://www.kristv.com/news/coronavi...aminers-office

The Nueces County Medical Examiner’s office is no longer taking in bodies of those who have died from COVID-19. Now, plans are in place to get some help from local funeral homes and another morgue trailer.

Nueces Co. Judge Barbara Canales told KRIS 6 News because of the unexpected spike in novel coronavirus-related deaths, room is running out at the medical examiner’s office.

Canales said that's where funeral homes can help with storage.

“So what happens when you die at home and you were COVID-19 positive? The funeral homes being able to take that duty on is very welcoming,” she said. “I would imagine the funeral homes will be playing a big role in the upcoming weeks.”

Nueces County currently has one morgue trailer, but Canales also is asking FEMA for another trailer, along with supplies and technology to keep it up-and-running. The move comes after the medical examiner reached out and shared their concern about the situation.

[Ralph_Kirk]

It was disastrous. They didn't want the public to buy face masks because they were worried health care providers wouldn't get any, so they lied and said face masks were not effective. It was a dirty lie. Besides, the public should be able buy whatever they want, and if that means some healthcare providers don't get masks, then so be it. I think it was arrogant to tell the public not to buy masks and try to lie and say they weren't effective. Now that lie is meaning a lot more deaths in the USA.[/quote]


Moreover, the lie was unnecessary. The medical and consumer supply chains diverge in the factory. Medical masks are slightly different in design (for instance, produced in three different sizes), packaged differently for sanitation and quantity, and delivered through a different distribution system. All that was necessary--and what was actually done--was to direct the manufacturers to put all production on the medical supply side.


But the worst effect of the lie is that is said to American free enterprise: There is no market in making masks. It even killed any speculation that a market could be created. There are many companies that could have converted floor space to making masks--General Motors, for instance, converted an auto assembly line to N-95 mask making within a week on speculation. But by declaring that people should not even be wearing masks, the experts killed the market.


And that to their own detriment, because without other companies converting to mask-making, their own requirements still can't be met.


If they had said from the outset, "Everyone needs to be masked," free enterprise would have gladly moved to fill that void and make their profits.

[sanz7887]

Originally Posted by Ralph_Kirk

It was disastrous. They didn't want the public to buy face masks because they were worried health care providers wouldn't get any, so they lied and said face masks were not effective. It was a dirty lie. Besides, the public should be able buy whatever they want, and if that means some healthcare providers don't get masks, then so be it. I think it was arrogant to tell the public not to buy masks and try to lie and say they weren't effective. Now that lie is meaning a lot more deaths in the USA.


Moreover, the lie was unnecessary. The medical and consumer supply chains diverge in the factory. Medical masks are slightly different in design (for instance, produced in three different sizes), packaged differently for sanitation and quantity, and delivered through a different distribution system. All that was necessary--and what was actually done--was to direct the manufacturers to put all production on the medical supply side.


But the worst effect of the lie is that is said to American free enterprise: There is no market in making masks. It even killed any speculation that a market could be created. There are many companies that could have converted floor space to making masks--General Motors, for instance, converted an auto assembly line to N-95 mask making within a week on speculation. But by declaring that people should not even be wearing masks, the experts killed the market.


And that to their own detriment, because without other companies converting to mask-making, their own requirements still can't be met.


If they had said from the outset, "Everyone needs to be masked," free enterprise would have gladly moved to fill that void and make their profits.

Sad but true ...100%...we shouldnt have been lied and the Govt should have invoked the act to manufacture PPEs and Masks within USA , instead of depending on 3rd party countries..We wasted so much tiem in Jan and Feb gloating that we are somehow immune

[Katana49]

Originally Posted by Ralph_Kirk

It was disastrous. They didn't want the public to buy face masks because they were worried health care providers wouldn't get any, so they lied and said face masks were not effective. It was a dirty lie. Besides, the public should be able buy whatever they want, and if that means some healthcare providers don't get masks, then so be it. I think it was arrogant to tell the public not to buy masks and try to lie and say they weren't effective. Now that lie is meaning a lot more deaths in the USA.


Moreover, the lie was unnecessary. The medical and consumer supply chains diverge in the factory. Medical masks are slightly different in design (for instance, produced in three different sizes), packaged differently for sanitation and quantity, and delivered through a different distribution system. All that was necessary--and what was actually done--was to direct the manufacturers to put all production on the medical supply side.


But the worst effect of the lie is that is said to American free enterprise: There is no market in making masks. It even killed any speculation that a market could be created. There are many companies that could have converted floor space to making masks--General Motors, for instance, converted an auto assembly line to N-95 mask making within a week on speculation. But by declaring that people should not even be wearing masks, the experts killed the market.


And that to their own detriment, because without other companies converting to mask-making, their own requirements still can't be met.


If they had said from the outset, "Everyone needs to be masked," free enterprise would have gladly moved to fill that void and make their profits.

I said this from the beginning. The handling of this pandemic has been nothing short of a complete and unmitigated failure. It's embarrassing how a 1st world country like ours has failed its citizens, and the TRUMP administration deserves a huge helping of the blame. Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way!

[Wittgenstein's Ghost]

Originally Posted by move4ward

Abbot bans elective surgeries in 100+ counties. You can travel to a surrounding county, if you need the surgery. Those counties may have a huge backlog.

This is insane. Many people may die from delayed organ transplants and cancer treatment. Why can't the military or national guard set up field hospitals like they did in NYC?

Texas bans elective surgeries in more than 100 counties as coronavirus hospitalizations keep climbing - https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07...ive-surgeries/

Does "elective surgery" include things like organ transplants? I'm honestly asking -- I have no idea.

Originally Posted by CDContribuitor

I find this interesting about the test. This is an excerpt from a document within CDC website:
"There is a very little chance that the test can give a positive result that is wrong (false positive). Your healthcare provider will work with you to determine how best to care for you based on your test results, medical history and symptoms."

It does not mention how little is that "little chance" in terms of percentage.

In general, false positives are much rarer than false negatives. They are also less problematic. It is better that someone thinks they have Covid if they don't than for them to think they don't have it if they do.

Originally Posted by Ralph_Kirk

Besides, the public should be able buy whatever they want, and if that means some healthcare providers don't get masks, then so be it.

This is a terrible opinion. If we have genuine scarcity, those resources should go to the people who are both vital for treating this virus and are exposed to the largest risks. I honestly can't believe this is your take on this.

The fact that scarcity existed with masks is a real problem, but given that scarcity, ensuring healthcare workers had them was the right thing to do.

[CHRockwell]

Originally Posted by Katana49

I said this from the beginning. The handling of this pandemic has been nothing short of a complete and unmitigated failure. It's embarrassing how a 1st world country like ours has failed its citizens, and the TRUMP administration deserves a huge helping of the blame. Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way!

LOL that you think this is his fault. Have to laugh at all the people still overreacting from this.

[CDContribuitor]

Dallas County pdf cannot be accessed anymore.

You are right about Texas Tribune numbers. They are way off from "City of Dallas" numbers being presented by the Mayor. Texas Tribune is showing 2293 beds available and 244 ICU beds available for "North Central Texas" region that includes DFW metroplex.

As per the latest numbers for City of Dallas from the Mayor's daily email:
Total beds: 5846 (----> Reduced by 260 from 6106 from a day before; no idea if this is an error or a correction)
Beds occupied: 4218 (72%) (----> Increased from 4143 a day before; because of reduction in "total beds", the % beds available jumped from 68% yesterday to 72 % today)
Total ICU beds: 939 (----> Reduced from 968 from a day before; no idea if this is an error or a correction)
ICU beds occupied: 654 (70%) (Reduced from 679 a day before, which is a good sign)
Total ventilators: 961
Ventilators in use: 372 (39%) (Increased from 365 a day before)

Originally Posted by serger

On the texas tribune site you hover on the map (hospital beds in use by region). Now it shows even less available.

And Dallas county ICU data was in that .pdf