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Old 05-21-2010, 04:00 AM
 
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I don't know about places I haven't lived, but I can say Macomb Township is a pretty nice area. People take care of their properties and crime is extremely low. I have also lived in Royal Oak and found that to be rather trashy, honestly. And contrived. Like it was always trying to be this trendy, hip place... it was really lame. And the people who lived next to me there were garbage. Didn't maintain their properties, had hoopdies out on the drive, dogs that sometimes became unleashed. Yuck. Clinton Township has areas that are nicer than others, just depends which section you are in.
But seriously though, all of southeast Michigan is in the toilet right now. It is all over, even in the more affluent communities.
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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Honestly, here's what I think on a scale of 1-20. Crime, blight, curb appeal, relative wealth, schools and local business all play into my rating.

Good Suburbs:
Berkley - 20/20
Birmingham - 18/20
Ferndale - 17/20
Bloomfield Hills - 16/20
Pleasant Ridge - 16/20
Huntington Woods - 15/20
Sterling Heights - 14/20
Bloomfield - 14/20
Grosse Pointe - 14/20

OK (Somewhat Good) Suburbs:
Livonia - 13/20
Harper Woods (from what I know) - 11/20
Saint Clair Shores - 11/20
Clawson - 11/20
Hazel Park - 10/20
Dearborn - 10/20
Troy - 9/20

OK (Somewhat Bad) Suburbs:
Madison Heights - 7/20
Royal Oak - 6/20
Auburn Hills - 6/20
Warren - 6/20
Dearborn Heights - 6/20
Clinton - 6/20
Romulus - 6/20
Waterford - 6/20
Wayne - 6/20
Eastpointe - 5/20
Chesterfield - 4/20


Bad Suburbs:
River Rouge - 3/20
Roseville - 2/20
Oak Park - 2/20
Southfield - 2/20
Redford - 2/20
Mount Clemens - 2/20
Hamtramck - 2/20
Center Line - 1/20
Westland - 1/20

Suburbs to Absolutely Avoid:
Highland Park
Pontiac
Inkster
Melvindale
Royal Oak Township
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Old 05-29-2010, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Detroit's Marina District
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Honestly, here's what I think on a scale of 1-20. Crime, blight, curb appeal, relative wealth, schools and local business all play into my rating.

Good Suburbs:
Berkley - 20/20
Birmingham - 18/20
Ferndale - 17/20
Bloomfield Hills - 16/20
Pleasant Ridge - 16/20
Huntington Woods - 15/20
Sterling Heights - 14/20
Bloomfield - 14/20
Grosse Pointe - 14/20

OK (Somewhat Good) Suburbs:
Livonia - 13/20
Harper Woods (from what I know) - 11/20
Saint Clair Shores - 11/20
Clawson - 11/20
Hazel Park - 10/20
Dearborn - 10/20
Troy - 9/20

OK (Somewhat Bad) Suburbs:
Madison Heights - 7/20
Royal Oak - 6/20
Auburn Hills - 6/20
Warren - 6/20
Dearborn Heights - 6/20
Clinton - 6/20
Romulus - 6/20
Waterford - 6/20
Wayne - 6/20
Eastpointe - 5/20
Chesterfield - 4/20


Bad Suburbs:
River Rouge - 3/20
Roseville - 2/20
Oak Park - 2/20
Southfield - 2/20
Redford - 2/20
Mount Clemens - 2/20
Hamtramck - 2/20
Center Line - 1/20
Westland - 1/20

Suburbs to Absolutely Avoid:
Highland Park
Pontiac
Inkster
Melvindale
Royal Oak Township
OK, I agree with most of these, but I think Ferndale and Livonia should switch places on this list. Ferndale has a great downtown and all, but areas are looking fairly run-down. Livonia, on the other hand, has always been great.
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Old 05-29-2010, 03:13 PM
 
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I'd say you are close but do you REALLY think Sterling Heights is better than Troy? Troy is in Oakland County, has large homes and far more College grads (I thought it was the Apex of the East Life?)

Ferndale is becoming REAL "sketchy!" Harper Woods USED to be nice... I'd rate it as a slightly below eastside suburb. Oh, Royal Oak should be moved to be slightly better than "OK".

The sterling heights thing killed me! if someone gave me a house there I wouldn't live in it. Actually, my grandmother died and I got her Sterling House. I visited once after her death and sold it for as fast as I could for as little as it would take to sell it fast. I hated going to the east side to see her as a kid.

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Originally Posted by [JS] View Post
Honestly, here's what I think on a scale of 1-20. Crime, blight, curb appeal, relative wealth, schools and local business all play into my rating.

Good Suburbs:
Berkley - 20/20
Birmingham - 18/20
Ferndale - 17/20
Bloomfield Hills - 16/20
Pleasant Ridge - 16/20
Huntington Woods - 15/20
Sterling Heights - 14/20
Bloomfield - 14/20
Grosse Pointe - 14/20

OK (Somewhat Good) Suburbs:
Livonia - 13/20
Harper Woods (from what I know) - 11/20
Saint Clair Shores - 11/20
Clawson - 11/20
Hazel Park - 10/20
Dearborn - 10/20
Troy - 9/20

OK (Somewhat Bad) Suburbs:
Madison Heights - 7/20
Royal Oak - 6/20
Auburn Hills - 6/20
Warren - 6/20
Dearborn Heights - 6/20
Clinton - 6/20
Romulus - 6/20
Waterford - 6/20
Wayne - 6/20
Eastpointe - 5/20
Chesterfield - 4/20


Bad Suburbs:
River Rouge - 3/20
Roseville - 2/20
Oak Park - 2/20
Southfield - 2/20
Redford - 2/20
Mount Clemens - 2/20
Hamtramck - 2/20
Center Line - 1/20
Westland - 1/20

Suburbs to Absolutely Avoid:
Highland Park
Pontiac
Inkster
Melvindale
Royal Oak Township
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Old 05-31-2010, 08:22 PM
 
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Ferndale is becoming REAL "sketchy!" Harper Woods USED to be nice... I'd rate it as a slightly below eastside suburb. Oh, Royal Oak should be moved to be slightly better than "OK".
Your rlly funny. Im a black male living in RO because I can't really afford to live anywhere nicer. I currently live at 13 and Crooks but i did live at 11 and Woodward at one point in apartment as well as my childhood house. I moved out of the apartment in 2002 while RO was still nice and i moved to a foreclosed house at 13 and crooks.

My neighbors are complete rednecks and they throw beer cans on my yard. When I go outside, theyr usually sitting on the porch and they call me the N word and Bill Cosby and they tell me to go pick cottan while i walk to my car. And their house looks like it should have wheels on it. Theyr siding is horrible and they drive some old piece of crap pickup truck. And my other neighbors arent very classy either. They dont cut there lawn and they park on theyr lawn all the time. Ive lived in RO all my life and it was nice in the 80s it was nice in the 90s and even for some time in the two thousands but now it is complete crap. I have to send my kid out of the city to go to school because the schools in RO are horrible. Wenever I drive by white people stare at me like theyve never seen a black person before. If you ask me Royal Oak should be on the bottom of the list with highland park.

And my mother live in Sterling Heights and id much rather live there. RO is full of trashy people at least in sterling heights the people have dignity. And Ferndale is lot nicer too. When i get the money to move out of my forclosed house which i bought for only a few thousand dollars I m going to Ferndale because at least i wont have to deal with the hillbilly trailer trash that RO has to offer

And i agree, sterling heights is better than troy. Once you get past certain mile roads it starts looking like backwood

TBH Hazel Park and Harper Woods should switch spots too. I know alot of people who live in HP and they think its great. The only place i can really say is bad in hazel park is muir street down by 8 mile

But the second i can afford i will move out of RO. I made the foolish decision to stay because my parents used to live in RO. Now that they moved i dont have reason to live here because it is full of rednecks and criminals

-Shawn
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Old 06-01-2010, 11:50 AM
 
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What's the difference between Royal Oak and Royal Oak Township?
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Old 06-01-2010, 12:28 PM
 
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What's the difference between Royal Oak and Royal Oak Township?
Government and racial demographics. School districts too. I believe most Royal Oak township kids go to Ferndale schools, with some possibly going to Oak Park schools, if i'm not mistaken.
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Old 06-01-2010, 12:40 PM
 
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Royal Oak may have bad spots that I just can't remember but it's a north-south city that stretches for several miles along and across Woodward. I know for a fact that the area north of 13 and west of Woodward is very nice, with some really nice housing stock from the 1920s mixed in there. It butts up against Beverly Hills. Also, the Vinsetta park area is very nice on the east side of Woodward near 12 mile road. In the north, it also butts up against Birmingham.

There are some very nice parts of Royal Oak.
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Old 06-01-2010, 01:02 PM
 
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Royal Oak may have bad spots that I just can't remember but it's a north-south city that stretches for several miles along and across Woodward. I know for a fact that the area north of 13 and west of Woodward is very nice, with some really nice housing stock from the 1920s mixed in there. It butts up against Beverly Hills. Also, the Vinsetta park area is very nice on the east side of Woodward near 12 mile road. In the north, it also butts up against Birmingham.

There are some very nice parts of Royal Oak.
I agree, having good and not so good parts in a city is pretty normal. When I was looking for a house last summer I saw some nice neighborhoods in RO.
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Old 06-01-2010, 02:31 PM
 
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Right, it's a larger suburb with different areas. I believe you could fit Ferndale, Huntington Woods, Berkley and Clawson inside of Royal Oak and have some room to spare.

The best of RO, in my opinion, is the NW. It looks similar to Birmingham, without the taxes....or the schools of course.
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