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Old 01-23-2015, 05:28 PM
 
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Most people probably don't intend to drive drunk. If I drink 6 beers and a shot over 5 hours I will be fine, but over 4 hours I would be borderline. At 4.25 hrs I would be fine.

What's the difference between .078 and .082? 15 minutes and a DWI.
I think you're committing a bit of a continuum fallacy here - the line has to be drawn somewhere.

 
Old 01-23-2015, 05:32 PM
 
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And that's why you should be responsible and not even get close to the limit before driving.
My point was that I don't think people actually choose to drive beyond the legal limit.

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I think you're committing a bit of a continuum fallacy here - the line has to be drawn somewhere.
The line is drawn at .08.
 
Old 01-23-2015, 05:35 PM
 
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My point was that I don't think people actually choose to drive beyond the legal limit.
If you know 4 drinks could in a rare situation take you over, you limit yourself to 2. Why is that so hard? Don't test the limits.
 
Old 01-23-2015, 05:35 PM
 
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My point was that I don't think people actually choose to drive beyond the legal limit.
Well, if you have no idea if you have had too much to drink, you should err on the side of caution. Ignorance is no excuse, as the saying goes.
 
Old 01-23-2015, 05:38 PM
 
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My point was that I don't think people actually choose to drive beyond the legal limit.



The line is drawn at .08.


Actually you can be convicted under 0.08 bac if it's proven at 0.05 you were impaired
 
Old 01-23-2015, 05:48 PM
 
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Most people probably don't intend to drive drunk. If I drink 6 beers and a shot over 5 hours I will be fine, but over 4 hours I would be borderline. At 4.25 hrs I would be fine.

What's the difference between .078 and .082? 15 minutes and a DWI.

Looks like you already know how to solve this problem. The choice is still yours. And the responsibility is still yours.
 
Old 01-23-2015, 05:59 PM
 
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People that are DUI kill huge numbers of people on the highways each year.it should be taken as a very serious crime with serious consequences without doubt.in most states it not taken serious enough for the harm in does in endangering lifes.
 
Old 01-23-2015, 06:00 PM
 
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Actually you can be convicted under 0.08 bac if it's proven at 0.05 you were impaired
That depends on the state and if we are talking about state laws then you could be convicted riding a bicycle.
 
Old 01-23-2015, 06:02 PM
 
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Actually you can be convicted under 0.08 bac if it's proven at 0.05 you were impaired
Arizona has a 'to the slightest degree' statute.

28-1381. Driving or actual physical control while under the influence; trial by jury; presumptions; admissible evidence; sentencing; classification

A. It is unlawful for a person to drive or be in actual physical control of a vehicle in this state under any of the following circumstances:

1. While under the influence of intoxicating liquor, any drug, a vapor releasing substance containing a toxic substance or any combination of liquor, drugs or vapor releasing substances if the person is impaired to the slightest degree.
 
Old 01-23-2015, 06:05 PM
 
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If you know 4 drinks could in a rare situation take you over, you limit yourself to 2. Why is that so hard? Don't test the limits.
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Well, if you have no idea if you have had too much to drink, you should err on the side of caution. Ignorance is no excuse, as the saying goes.
Let's not make this about me. I was proving a point. If this were about me I wouldn't bring cars into it because it is easier and faster to walk to the bar than just to walk to my car.

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Looks like you already know how to solve this problem. The choice is still yours. And the responsibility is still yours.
Unfortunately, this guy doesn't get it.
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