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Originally Posted by bg7
No country in Western Europe has the same influence we have here resulting from religionists and extremists getting in the way of common sense to set the non-parochial educational agenda.....
Connecticut and New York would turn out fine. But many state's kids would end up at an even greater disadvantage than they do now.
Not comparable.
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The European Union is gathering strength. They have consolidated their money and, despite the spits and spats, it is highly unlikely that it will be dissolved. If the current trend continues, and I believe it will, I see the European Union, eventually, becoming a super power and all the negative aspects of consolidation.
New York might be fine if you remove NYC.
I don't know what Europe you have been to, but the one I have been in has many extreme beliefs. I'll specifically reference France, since that is where my family is and the country in which I am most familiar.
There is this religion over there, perhaps you've heard of it...Catholicism? It pretty much influences, well, everything. In every village, the largest building is usually the Catholic church and it is usually at the center of the village. I'm sure that there are other churches in that country, but I never saw any. If the local school were start pedagogy practices that conflicted with the dogma of the Catholic church, I think there might be some heads rolling. I'm not Catholic, but when I'm there, I extremely respectful.
And don't forget,
Europe has it's own issues with extremists.
There are extremists and, then, there are extremists. Go ahead and go over to France and not speak the language. Especially outside of Paris. I dare you. (Most of them
can speak English, btw).
Go ahead and try to name your child Tuesday.
Show up at the Fête de Bayonne in any color other than red and white. If you try this with my cousins, they will change your clothes. (Don't ask)
Pull up to a quaint little sidewalk cafe for a late lunch - around 3 ish. See how well that is received.
France, along with each country in Europe is small enough to have a well-defined national character. It's an awe inspiring force when they decide to make changes. They got on board with the green movement. Everyone has a garden and has a clothes line. And is proud of it. They value aesthetics. You never see a car up on blocks with weeds and debris.
Funny story: My son was in Germany. After a night of partying, he left the bar in the middle of the night with no traffic. He decided to cross the street against the light. The German people stopped him and scolded him. If he had just driven an hour into France, he would have been fine.
But no. Let's consolidate those countries and make them more like us. If it's good for us, it must be good for them.
One more point. Mississippi's standards were fine. Their performance on whatever testing metric you want to reference, was poor. We can say, "All students will master calculus by eighth grade." It matters not what you make the standards. It's just lipstick on a pig.
THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEMS IN AMERICAN EDUCATION WAS NOT THE WRITTEN STATE STANDARDS.
THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEMS IN AMERICAN EDUCATION WAS NOT THE WRITTEN STATE STANDARDS.
THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEMS IN AMERICAN EDUCATION WAS NOT THE WRITTEN STATE STANDARDS.
THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEMS IN AMERICAN EDUCATION IS NOT THE STANDARDS.