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I'm not at all threatened by science and for you to believe I am, you havent have read my postings which said I'm an agnostic.
Calling something not a fact, because the scientific community says its not a fact, doesnt mean I'm threatened by the results if it is a fact.
There are lots of scientists who use their knowledge of science to strengthen their creationism views. To pretend either one is a fact, and use it as evidence to suggest undeniably proof that the other theory is incorrect, is an outright lie.
You have willfully selected a few random scientists and claim that that must mean it's not accepted as fact, yet you have not acknowledged in the least that the vast, vast majority of people who know better, biological scientists, believe evolution to be an established scientific fact. Why you choose to ignore that I'm not sure, but the only rational conclusion is that you somehow feel threatened by evolution in some way. If you were truly an agnostic, you wouldn't feel particularly compelled to deny it so much.
Your source is called Genesis Park????? And you say you are not religious? Pull the other one....
Thats the best retort you could do? Thats pretty sad.. So if the link went to
Scienceisafactandcreationismisstupid.com, you'd accept whatever they said as a fact? Wow.. you have very low standards.
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Originally Posted by poletop1
Do you know what a theory is in scientific context? This idea that something cannot be both a fact or theory or that fact is above theory (ironic considering that a scientific theory must be supported by many facts and explanations for the mechanisms behind these facts) is simply scientific illiteracy.
When do children return to school? No one said its not both a fact or a theory, the question is, is evolution a theory.. YES IT IS..
A scientific theory must:
-be empirically testable or lead to testable predictions or retrodictions (use present information or ideas to infer or explain a past event or state of affairs)
-make verified predictions and/or retrodictions
-have reproducible results
-have criteria for interpreting data as factual, artifactual, anomalous or irrelevant
A scientific theory must help us understand the nature of our data. Some data may be factual (verify the theory's predictions or retrodictions); some may be artifactual (result of secondary or accidental influences); some are anomalous (valid, but at odds with predictions or retrodictions); some are irreproducable and thus invalid; and some are irrelevant.
Maybe you just dont like others proving you wrong.
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Originally Posted by jbcmh81
You have willfully selected a few random scientists and claim that that must mean it's not accepted as fact, yet you have not acknowledged in the least that the vast, vast majority of people who know better, biological scientists, believe evolution to be an established scientific fact. Why you choose to ignore that I'm not sure, but the only rational conclusion is that you somehow feel threatened by evolution in some way. If you were truly an agnostic, you wouldn't feel particularly compelled to deny it so much.
HELLO? ANYONE HOME?
NO ONE SAID ITS NOT ACCEPTED AS FACT.. For gods sakes go back and re-read postings and then educate yourself on the difference between something accepted as fact, and then something that IS a fact.
Again with the example
the Theory of evolution says we evolved from monkeys.
Where is the proof this is true? The lack of it IS A CRACK
Not one person here has said religion is correct and that evolution is wrong.
Actually, it is implied, but at best you are arguing that creationism is at the same level as evolution and deserves to be taught as science. Therefore, you are arguing that science should not be about evidence, but popular belief systems.
I didnt change my story at all, evolution was ALWAYS a theory and has been since the beginning of time. Maybe you are starting to comprehend why you were wrong.
Ummm.... no, Evolution has probably been a fact since the beginning of time.
But the Theory of Evolution has only been around for about 150 years. Not "since the beginning of time."
You really can't get your head around the fact that evolution is a fact. And the Theory of Evolution is the explanation of the fact of evolution.
Where did you go to school again? Makes me question your claims of a school success. They DONT leave it at the door no more than a preacher leaves their scientific knowledge at the door when they enter a church.
If these scientists believe in creationism, then they are absolutely abandoning the scientific process to believe in it, because nothing in creationism is supported by actual science.
Oh good grief. Every post you make shows just how uneducated and willfully ignorant you are.
Where is she wrong? Darwin's theory, or any other theory of evolution, does not prove that gases and minerals can create life, much less complex life forms.
If these scientists believe in creationism, then they are absolutely abandoning the scientific process to believe in it, because nothing in creationism is supported by actual science.
Except the logical process to arrive at it. Science doesn't come close to supporting evolution or abiogenesis, but there are still plenty of half-wits that believe in them.
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When do children return to school? No one said its not both a fact or a theory, the question is, is evolution a theory.. YES IT IS..
