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Old 06-05-2012, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Thats not at all what Romney claimed, he took credit for the bankruptcy plan, which was ULTIMATELY FOLLOWED...

Thats not a bailout.
This is Romney's NY Times OP ED titled: "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt." Can't wiggle out of that.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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This is Romney's NY Times OP ED titled: "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt." Can't wiggle out of that.
Trust me, he can. If nothing else, he will call it "off topic".

Heck, even Romney can and the attempt began a while ago. He can always count on the intellect and loyalty of a specific segment of the voters.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Texas
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There are many moderates in this country who might be willing to consider giving the Republicans a shot at trying to fix the economy,
Why would anyone want the same type of intrusive big government that ruined the economy to fix it? If these people were in the private sector they'd be fired.

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but the thing that stops them cold is the horrible reputation the Republicans have on social issues. They don't want to give Rebulicans control because they see what Republicans do and have desires to do to suppress women (subject them to invasive medically unnecessary vaginal ultrasounds, fight against equal pay for equal work, return to the practice of allowing medical insurance companies to charge more for women), suppress gays (by denying them the opportunity to marry and have their marriages recognized), suppress minorities (by passing laws that make every Hispanic looking person a suspect of being here illegally), suppress the poor (by cutting safety nets), suppress the elderly (by ruining Social Security through privitization and undermining Medicare), suppress voters (by trying every way they can to suppress voter turn-out and make it more difficult for citizens to vote). And on top of all that, you want to pad the bank accounts of the rich.

That is just too much to handle. The costs are too high to give the Republicans the White House to see if they could do a better job than Obama on the economy.

If Republicans were just fiscally conservative, that would be one thing. But, the socially conservative oppressive positions make Republicans completely repulsive. They take away freedoms and take away opportunities for advancement, and you lose a lot of votes you might otherwise get because of that.
IF republicans were just fiscally conservative? IF?? Since when have they been fiscally conservative? Many vote to raise the debt ceiling. Many vote to increase the budget. Saying and doing are two different things.

I got news for you. No ones suppressing any group. They may not be handing out favors to them using my money, but that's not suppressing.
They are suppressing individuals by controlling the economy and hand picking the winners and losers. Quit counting on government to "handle" things for you, they haven't done a very good job of it now have they?
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:12 PM
 
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But GDP grew. Why didn't federal revenue? Average Growth in federal revenue by decade (constant 2005 dollars):
1981-1990: +2.21%
1991-2000: +4.41%
2001-2010: -1.47%

By Presidential Terms:
1981-1984: -0.34%
1985-1988: +4.91%
1989-1992: +0.84%
1993-1996: +4.89%
1997-2000: +6.81%
2001-2004: -4.07%
2005-2008: +4.26%
2009-2011*: -3.94%
Because we tax profits, not gross sales..
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He was more than willing to let them (car companies) to go bankrupt! And you are right it is not a bailout
They did go bankrupt..
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:14 PM
 
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Ahem:

From FactCheck.org:

I don't know anything about the "dam surplus."
Hey MTA, if there was surpluses, why does the US Treasury report federal debt climbed EVERY SINGLE YEAR?

Answer, because your left wing propaganda is only discussusing Public debt, not intragovernmental debt. Thats like calculating the debt on your home by ignoring your 2nd mortgage.

Stupid, stupid thing to do.. But hey, Factcheck lied to you, and it has the word "fact" right in it, so it has to be true.. haha
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Because we tax profits, not gross sales..
So, profits were higher when taxes were higher.

Now, what has GDP got to do with whether you tax on profits, or gross sales?
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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And like a good little Democrat, you believe everything your left wing propaganda gives you.

Hey MTA, if there was surpluses, why does the US Treasury report federal debt climbed EVERY SINGLE YEAR?
Because interest on debt doesn't matter. It's not like it's going to be paid anyway.
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:18 PM
 
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Well, not much different from "buy out", the Romney plan, is it?
As usual, you arent making any sense, because Romney never suggested we do that, thats what happened. You dont understand the difference between a proposal, and actual events, but once again, we're supposed to think you're the smart one cause you have "einstein" in your name.. haha
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:21 PM
 
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So, profits were higher when taxes were higher.
Its like I need to educate you on every single posting. Are you sure you're old enough to be here?

Profits on corporations were higher, but clearly we dont only tax corporations, we also profits from labor, and we have far fewer people working. Do you really need people to explain this to you?
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Now, what has GDP got to do with whether you tax on profits, or gross sales?
I agree, it has nothing to do with it, but then I must ask why YOU brought it up..
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:23 PM
 
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This is Romney's NY Times OP ED titled: "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt." Can't wiggle out of that.
THEY DID GO BANKRUPT
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Trust me, he can. If nothing else, he will call it "off topic".

Heck, even Romney can and the attempt began a while ago. He can always count on the intellect and loyalty of a specific segment of the voters.
Hello? Anyone home? They again, DID go bankrupt.. so lets see.. Obama copied Romneycare, and then copied Romneys bankruptcy strategy. If Obama is going to run around and copy Romneys plans, why exactly do we need Obama?
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