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Old 07-26-2012, 07:16 PM
 
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fyi the supreme court outlawed segregration.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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There should be a two-year grace period for illegal immigrants to attain work visas so they can continue contributing to America and begin taking part in American society openly.
Immigration

I get "open borders" feel from him. While he's never said it out right I distrust libertarians on the immigration issue because most true believer libertarians usually end up supporting open borders.

He's also a paper tiger on the Federal Reserve, supports "humanitarian" wars, and he supports government back gay marriages.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:28 PM
 
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and that my friend is going back to the 1950's. That is what happened. Blacks were denied because of of their skin color, otherwise known owners having the right to serve who they want. You can't guarantee it won't happen, so i'm definitely against all libertarians.
So basically you believe you have a right to another persons property? That's what your position amounts to. If a business owner doesn't want someone on their property that is their right. If they can't regulate their own property then they can't properly call it theirs. They don't really own it. If I own a business and the land that's on it, that is my property. Just like I have the right to deny anyone I want access to my house (which is also MY property) I should have the right to deny anyone access to my business for whatever reason I choose. If not, I can't really say I own the property.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:32 PM
 
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I'm pretty happy the government prevents businesses from discriminating against people like me, so I can live with the goverment regulating businesses. By the way, I dont buy the arguement that a business would be run out out of town if they discriminate.
So what? Don't shop there! You don't have some divine right to other people's property. Just because you WANT to go onto another's property doesn't give you the right to. I can't just walk into someone's house because they have something I want just because I want it. If they do not invite me in then I do not have any right to step foot on their property. If someone denies people access to their business on the basis of race, religion, etc. then they have that right but they will also suffer the economic consequences. If I purposely limit my customer base then I won't make as much as the business down the road who serves everyone.
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:44 AM
 
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I disagree with trying to run a country with darwinism lifestyle. I'm only 30, and i'm black, and the 1950's didnt look great from what I read in history books, and i have no use to go back to that in 2016.
So a libertarian is elected president then the next day the Klan comes back to power and blacks are being chased down and lynched???

That doesn't make any sense.
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:48 AM
 
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Immigration

I get "open borders" feel from him. While he's never said it out right I distrust libertarians on the immigration issue because most true believer libertarians usually end up supporting open borders.

He's also a paper tiger on the Federal Reserve, supports "humanitarian" wars, and he supports government back gay marriages.
Libertarians believe in open borders WITH ZERO SOCIAL SERVICES. Mexicans won't come to America without handouts to go along with it. There would be nothing to worry about.
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:50 AM
 
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ron paul believes in denying people access because of race. He believes in having "no blacks allowed" signs.
This is just a flat out lie.

Why do race baiters have to lie?
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:12 AM
 
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Libertarians believe in open borders WITH ZERO SOCIAL SERVICES. Mexicans won't come to America without handouts to go along with it. There would be nothing to worry about.
A nation without borders is no nation at all. We'll get the open borders before we get the "ZERO SOCIAL SERVICES" so then we'll be really screwed. We're already pandering to illegals in this country and letting them suck us dry. Open borders are the death knell of a nation.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:14 AM
 
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fyi the supreme court outlawed segregration.
Actually they outlawed people's ability to choose for themselves. Just another decision that needs thrown out.
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Old 07-27-2012, 11:08 AM
 
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A nation without borders is no nation at all. We'll get the open borders before we get the "ZERO SOCIAL SERVICES" so then we'll be really screwed. We're already pandering to illegals in this country and letting them suck us dry. Open borders are the death knell of a nation.
Open borders for endless cheap labor is good. That keeps prices down. In America, NOTHING is more important than the lowest possible price. (The American ideal of searching for the cheapest possible price is proof that America loves the cheapest labor.)

Extending taxpayer money to foreigners is bad.

I think there is a reason that you NEVER hear about protests against illegal immigration by college educated East Asians.
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