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Old 08-09-2012, 09:43 AM
 
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Well, the CBC states the obvious, that HC costs are rising and the Govt needs a plan to deal with it. FOX, who cares what they think? The last one, I can't believe even a Breitfart fanatic would offer that RWNJ as some sort of confirmation. Do keep trying though ...

But, but, but......YOU said no one is complaining in Canada didn't you?:

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The only ones crying about the Canadian or British systems are, well, some unaware Americans.
Gee....I guess you DID!! Are you now going to eat those words?

The CBC report states in it's title that their healthcare costs are UNSUSTAINABLE. But why take the Canadian Broadcasting Company's word for it...how about the IMF?:

Canada

About those lotteries for doctors:

Gander medical clinic holds doctor draw - Nfld. & Labrador - CBC News

Here the CBC mentions the Canadian Supreme Court ruling that "Access to a waiting List is not access to healthcare":

CBC News Indepth: Health Care

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"Access to a waiting list is not access to health care," two of the justices wrote in their decision.
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:45 AM
 
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I don't know about Canada, but in the US, I agree, costs have yet to be adequately addressed. That is why we have been in need of Repubs to help with the HC process, instead of politicking. If we can get the TNuts out from constipating Congress, maybe something could get done.
Dems had the votes to do this the right way. Rather they insisted on funding abortion which caused enough Dems to back away from the table that they bickered with each other for a year and we ended up with crap.

Obama made a good argument while he was campaigning about how he would sit at the table and everything would be put on the internet and debated before being voted on. Instead he allowed the divisive duo of Pelosi and Reid run the show.

When he did that, there was absolutely no chance of us getting anything decent.
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:45 AM
 
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Medicare and Medicaid are two different systems. Please understand what you are talking about before you engage in debate. We don't know anything about these people, but we are assuming that they could not afford insurance.

...and ObamaCare stole $500 Billion from Medicare.

Then they turn around and count the supposed savings from Medicare TWICE in their accounting:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/14/op...re-crisis.html

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Under Washington’s delusional rules, budget crunchers in both the White House and Congress credit this $1 trillion twice: once in calculating that the care law will generate more revenues than costs, and again in concluding that the Obama plan will chip away at the Medicare problem.



Unfortunately, the real world does not permit the luxury of double-counting. The truth is that the law will either be fully paid for or it will begin to address the Medicare problem — but not both.
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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...and ObamaCare stole $500 Billion from Medicare.
$500 billion that isn't even there.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:10 AM
 
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$500 billion that isn't even there.

Much like the Social Security "lock box".
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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VULTURE Romney...
obviously you posted before you heard the whole story, right? It is so bogus it isn't funny and it is deplorable. Negative ads are one thing, lies are quite another. BTW, I feel the same way, regardless of which side does it.

Nita
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Dems had the votes to do this the right way. Rather they insisted on funding abortion which caused enough Dems to back away from the table that they bickered with each other for a year and we ended up with crap.

Obama made a good argument while he was campaigning about how he would sit at the table and everything would be put on the internet and debated before being voted on. Instead he allowed the divisive duo of Pelosi and Reid run the show.

When he did that, there was absolutely no chance of us getting anything decent.
What a load of .. did you use exlax?
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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But, but, but......YOU said no one is complaining in Canada didn't you?:



Gee....I guess you DID!! Are you now going to eat those words?

The CBC report states in it's title that their healthcare costs are UNSUSTAINABLE. But why take the Canadian Broadcasting Company's word for it...how about the IMF?:

Canada

About those lotteries for doctors:

Gander medical clinic holds doctor draw - Nfld. & Labrador - CBC News

Here the CBC mentions the Canadian Supreme Court ruling that "Access to a waiting List is not access to healthcare":

CBC News Indepth: Health Care
I don't think Govts or people for that matter, who recognize they have challenges that need addressing, is crying about them. Most deal with the challenge and leave the crying to the ever present whiners like ....
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:17 PM
 
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What a load of .. did you use exlax?
Facts can be unpleasant.

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Old 08-09-2012, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Ah, a double dose of exlax... Oh what a relief, huh?
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