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Old 08-14-2012, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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The fact of the matter is that none of Ryans beliefs are anti-Christian. Most of the so-called "mainstream" churches today are apostate, and do not hold to traditional Christian teachings. In otherwords, they are outside of Biblical teaching on any subject. In a word, they are corrupt.

As such, these so-called "Christian" churches are condemnend. The Bible speaks of the falling away of the churches from the truth. It has begun, and has been happening for many years now.

I ran across a Website recently where churches are making alliances with Muslims! What does light have in common with darkness? Christians making alliances with Muslims? What an unholy alliance!
Sad.
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Do you apologize for posting FALSEHOODS that your source RETRACTED?
I am waiting for Paul Ryan to release his 2008 tax returns. I will apologize depending on what those tax returns show.
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:05 PM
 
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Well, you know what? Capitalism, and the right to the fruits of ones labor is very Christian. Coveteousness is a sin.

"Collectivism" is not a Christian ideal. That would be anathema to a Christian. Christ never taught such a concept. I suspect you have no idea of what Christ taught.
Really? He's managed to upset the Catholic Bishops--they've called the Ryan Plan morally reprehensible.

Rep. Ryan Paul on spotlight with his fiscal theology, church leaders oppose

http://www.faithinpubliclife.org/blo...ting-the-poor/
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:07 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Default Rand perfectly articulated capitalism.

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Ayn Rand is dead. She had some valuable lessons to share from which Ryan learned. Just as some of us may have learned from our grandmothers. He's older now, more experienced and has developed a well adjusted political activism. He's not an atheist, he's not a libertarian. Just because he appreciates Ayn Rand won't make him either.

Today, Ryan is a result of growing older. A part of growing up. We should all try it.
If Paul Ryan is an Ayn Rand fan, I praise God for him! She perfectly articulated capitalism. Socialism, communism, any other system, is oppressive.

Man was ordained by God to be free. Capitalism is the perfect representation of freedom. The fruits of a mans labor belong to no one but him, and his intellectual property is his, and belongs to no one else.
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:12 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Well, you know what? Capitalism, and the right to the fruits of ones labor is very Christian. Coveteousness is a sin.

"Collectivism" is not a Christian ideal. That would be anathema to a Christian. Christ never taught such a concept. I suspect you have no idea of what Christ taught.
"To whom much is given, much is expected" – Luke 1:48

Of course, todays Pharisees (sorry, "conservatives") somehow interpret that to mean, "little is expected"!
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:12 PM
 
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If Paul Ryan is an Ayn Rand fan, I praise God for him! She perfectly articulated capitalism. Socialism, communism, any other system, is oppressive.

Man was ordained by God to be free. Capitalism is the perfect representation of freedom. The fruits of a mans labor belong to no one but him, and his intellectual property is his, and belongs to no one else.
You deserve congratulations for being intellectually honest--you're one of the few here who doesn't say one thing and do another. Now the question is if the rest of the country will agree with you once they understand what Rand taught, and how she's influenced modern politics. That's why I think this election is going to be so refreshing--everything is out on the table for once, and we're dealing with the truth vs. spin.
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:32 PM
 
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You deserve congratulations for being intellectually honest--you're one of the few here who doesn't say one thing and do another. Now the question is if the rest of the country will agree with you once they understand what Rand taught, and how she's influenced modern politics. That's why I think this election is going to be so refreshing--everything is out on the table for once, and we're dealing with the truth vs. spin.
And you are one of the few I listen too. Who's going to Win?
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I ran across a Website recently where churches are making alliances with Muslims! What does light have in common with darkness? Christians making alliances with Muslims? What an unholy alliance!
The Muslim Faith considers Jesus to be a Prophet, but not the Messiah.

Google ' Gospel of Barnabas ' if you want to find out how Jesus fits into the Muslim Faith.
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:08 PM
 
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So - young politician embraces an ideologue who's highly critical of the system, gets elected, gets a taste of power, and decides that - on sober reflection - the system perhaps isn't so bad, now that he's part of it?

Wow. Never heard of that happening before.
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Old 08-14-2012, 08:18 PM
 
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If Paul Ryan is an Ayn Rand fan, I praise God for him!
If Paul Ryan is a fan of an atheist, I praise God for him.

Eh, come again?
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