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View Poll Results: Income tax and Presidential preference
$0 - Obama 2 2.56%
$0 - Romney 5 6.41%
$0 - Someone else 2 2.56%
$1-2500 - Obama 5 6.41%
$1-2500 - Romney 3 3.85%
$1-2500 - Someone else 2 2.56%
$2501-7500 - Obama 6 7.69%
$2501-7500 - Romney 4 5.13%
$2501-7500 - Someone else 1 1.28%
$7501-$15,000 - Obama 7 8.97%
$7501-$15,000 - Romney 6 7.69%
$7501-$15,000 - Someone else 0 0%
$15,001-$25,000 - Obama 6 7.69%
$15,001-$25,000 - Romney 4 5.13%
$15,001-$25,000 - Someone else 1 1.28%
More than $25,000 - Obama 9 11.54%
More than $25,000 - Romney 10 12.82%
More than $25,000 - Someone else 5 6.41%
Voters: 78. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-19-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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Lie lie lie. As seen here, you would need to earn $100K per year to owe $21K in taxes, $16K for head of household IF you claimed zero deductions.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040tt.pdf

Sure are lots of fat cats at CD...LOL
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:26 PM
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Lie lie lie. As seen here, you would need to earn $100K per year to owe $21K in taxes, $16K for head of household IF you claimed zero deductions.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040tt.pdf

Sure are lots of fat cats at CD...LOL
Fat cats? According to Romney 100k a year is less than half of what it takes to be considered middle income.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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Depends.

Are you saying that anyone who lives in Hawaii is not middle class? His grandparents lived there. So everyone living in Hawaii is rich?

Did he pay for his tuition to Columbia and Harvard? Scholarships, loans, what? That makes a difference too.

My kids attend private school. I assure you, we are middle class. They aren't all expensive.

If you want to tell me he living in a mansion in Hawaii, paid his own way through Columbia and Harvard, and went to an elite private prep school paid for by his grandparents, then yes, I would agree, that's not middle class.
That he went through his entire life with everything being gave to him could be a part of the problem.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:31 PM
 
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That he went through his entire life with everything being gave to him could be a part of the problem.
So no former scholarship student is fit to be President?
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:37 PM
 
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Lie lie lie. As seen here, you would need to earn $100K per year to owe $21K in taxes, $16K for head of household IF you claimed zero deductions.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040tt.pdf


Sure are lots of fat cats at CD...LOL

Who is lying? I make well over $100K per year so no lies. Also, where do you live that you think people making $100K or more are fat cats? In some places they are fat cats. In other cases, they are solidly middle class. I just love when people from Podunk USA make claims like this.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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That he went through his entire life with everything being gave to him could be a part of the problem.

Which is it then? Is he wealthy because he lived in Hawaii? Is he automatically wealthy because he went to Harvard and Columbia? Or is he not wealthy and he got scholarships? Do you even know what you are saying and how you sound?
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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So no former scholarship student is fit to be President?
I don't think I said that. But yes, I would tend to not vote for someone that has had everything handed to them.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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JayZ isn't walking around preaching that he knows the pain of the average Joe. Although, he could....He actually did come from nothing.

I have absolutely no disdain for the rich. None whatsoever. I want to be one, one day. However, if you are a filthy rich presidential candidate, you better sure as hell be honest about it and not try to con me into trying to believe that you understand my middle-class or poverty strife. You better also show me how you are looking out for my interests (and that doesn't mean freebies). Romney is having a hard time pulling that off.

Let's face it--most presidential candidates these days come from wealth. The latest exception or the closest to actually experiencing middle class has been Obama, although by the time he ran for President he was definitely in the upper ranks of middle class based on the combined income of his household. Other "wealthy" presidential candidates have never had this much trouble trying to connect with voters of lower economic levels.
Kind of like Michelle "Barack knows your pain" Obama said today? But you'll vote for him, in spite of him having no clue about poverty.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:41 PM
 
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Which is it then? Is he wealthy because he lived in Hawaii? Is he automatically wealthy because he went to Harvard and Columbia? Or is he not wealthy and he got scholarships? Do you even know what you are saying and how you sound?
I didn't say he was "wealthy". I said the life he led doesn't sound middle class to me. The middle class generally has to work for what they get.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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And yet his mom was on food stamps for a time when he was little, and he got a full scholarship to that private school -- something that is generally not provided to children of upper-class families. Also, I'm not sure where you got the idea that growing up in Hawaii means one cannot be poor or middle-class. Having lived there for 3 years, I can assure you that is not the case.
He was raised by his grandmother, who was VP of a bank. Hardly the "little people."
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