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Old 10-18-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: NC
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Yes. are saying he DID serve?

"Biden received five student draft deferments during this period, with the first coming in late 1963 and the last in early 1968, at the peak of the Vietnam War.[21] In April 1968, he was reclassified by the Selective Service System as not available for service due to having had asthma as a teenager.[21][22] Biden was not a part of the anti-Vietnam War movement; he would later say that at the time he was preoccupied with marriage and law school, and that he "wore sports coats ... not tie-dyed".[23]"

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Was Biden actively supporting the Vietnam war while he was taking deferments? Because jingoist Romney was all for it until he had to serve...at which point he packed his bags and headed to France.
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:50 PM
 
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Yes. are saying he DID serve?

"Biden received five [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States"]student draft deferments[/URL] during this period, with the first coming in late 1963 and the last in early 1968, at the peak of the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War"]Vietnam War[/URL].[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#cite_note-ap-draft-20"][21][/URL] In April 1968, he was reclassified by the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System"]Selective Service System[/URL] as not available for service due to having had asthma as a teenager.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#cite_note-ap-draft-20"][21][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#cite_note-wapo-romano87-21"][22][/URL] Biden was not a part of the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_the_US_involvement_in_the_Vietnam_Wa r"]anti-Vietnam War movement[/URL]; he would later say that at the time he was preoccupied with marriage and law school, and that he "wore sports coats ... not tie-dyed".[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#cite_note-22"][23][/URL]"

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden]Joe Biden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]
You need to learn to read posts more carefully and save yourself a lot of time. This is what I wrote.

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Huh? Are you saying a Biden never served?
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:54 PM
 
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Was Biden actively supporting the Vietnam war while he was taking deferments? Because jingoist Romney was all for it until he had to serve...at which point he packed his bags and headed to France.
Exactly my point.

If I join PETA and protest in front of meat packing facilities, then go home and have a juicy burger, I am a hypocrite. However, if I am against the slaughter of animals and only eat vegetables, I am not.

As you wrote, there is a big difference between sticking to your principles and telling others to do something you and your family avoid.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:00 PM
 
Location: NC
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Exactly my point.

If I join PETA and protest in front of meat packing facilities, then go home and have a juicy burger, I am a hypocrite. However, if I am against the slaughter of animals and only eat vegetables, I am not.

As you wrote, there is a big difference between sticking to your principles and telling others to do something you and your family avoid.
Yes, though in Romney's case he is a hypocrite and a coward. WTF supports a war that they are unwilling to fight in. That is just disgusting and shows how little you value the lives of other people.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Note: Bush is not the president. I repeat, Bush is not the president.
You are correct. Now tell President Obama that - I don't think that he got the memo.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:10 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Those who don't learn from Bush history are doomed to repeat Bush history.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:16 PM
 
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Oh, I don't know. I think I read somewhere that he is running for vice president.


I hate to tell you this, but you need to take a course in Political Science or select better reading material. The Vice President does not run for office. He is selected to be the presidential running mate by the candidate who is running for POTUS. Otherwise, Americans would vote for the Vice President separately. Maybe you've never seen an actual ballot.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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So, in other words, Willard is trying to take credit for something that is predicted to happen anyway.

What a fraud.

Of course, when Obama is firmly entrenched in his second term, and those 12 million predicted jobs have occurred, will Willard (or any other republi-CON) give the President credit?
Yep. Exactly like he took credit for those women in binders when they were already compiled before he was elected.
He is a pathological liar.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:19 PM
 
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Those who don't learn from Bush history are doomed to repeat Bush history.
...and Romney is not distancing himself from Bush successfully at all. He's utilizing 70% of Bush's Neocon advisors and Paul Ryan is openly campaigning with Condasleazy Rice. Another puppet for the Neocons is all that Romney has turned out to be. This country deserves what it gets if we have a populace that is willing to vote for this nightmare revisited.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I hate to tell you this, but you need to take a course in Political Science or select better reading material. The Vice President does not run for office. He is selected to be the presidential running mate by the candidate who is running for POTUS. Otherwise, Americans would vote for the Vice President separately. Maybe you've never seen an actual ballot.
Sigh... Read the 12th amendment. It is still in effect and lays out out the manner in which the Vice President is elected.

The manner in which the VP is elected(party tickets) in no way invalidates that VP is elected by the Electoral College - which means that my use of the term "running" is entirely appropriate.

Write in votes are possible on those ballots which you snidely accuse me of having "never seen"(not only have I been voting for the past 17 years but I am a precinct clerk) - and the electors are pledged - but not bound - to vote according to the winners of their respective states. Thus a person could conceivably be elected Vice President who is not attached to a particular ticket.

It pains me that people who are uneducated about the constitution, as you apparently are - may actually vote.

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