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Old 09-02-2013, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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so you are admitting that for a party to win the WH, they need to have open borders......for lower wages and higher unemployment. ......lets make Mexico state 51, might as well, with that type of thinking.


so what you are saying is lets vote in a President that takes an oath to enforce all our laws except the ones that hurt the party for votes.....ok....LOL
No No No! Said nothing about open borders. All I am saying if the GOP wants to gain votes from Hispanics, they will not do so without being willing to deal with the current illegal population in a humane and practical way. That aside how easy do you think it would be for a Republican candidate to win a national election with only 30 percent of the Hispanic vote?

 
Old 09-02-2013, 10:19 PM
 
Location: NJ
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No No No! Said nothing about open borders. All I am saying if the GOP wants to gain votes from Hispanics, they will not do so without being willing to deal with the current illegal population in a humane and practical way.
, the sadistic behavior of the radical right (self deportation, "Let him die" (in response to question about dealing with uninsured) has caused most of the issues the GOP has had in the swing states that win POTUS elections.

Now what are these sadists accomplishing? Are they not adult enough to understand compromise and nuance in situations? Their rhetoric-its tone, its anger-displays their underlying sadism. It scares the independents away. Reagan ran on "shining city on the hill"-not I'm foaming at the mouth. Unlike the TP, Repubs won the Oval Office when Reagan ran.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 10:43 PM
 
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No No No! Said nothing about open borders. All I am saying if the GOP wants to gain votes from Hispanics, they will not do so without being willing to deal with the current illegal population in a humane and practical way. That aside how easy do you think it would be for a Republican candidate to win a national election with only 30 percent of the Hispanic vote?


are you implying that the U.S. don't treat our illegals in a humane and practical way? We treat them better than any country in the world and how do you enforce our laws if you are willing to look the other way for votes?

Im for LEGAL immigration and enforcing our laws.....if we let this go by, by giving amnesty might as well kiss our laws goodbye because they will keep on coming by the millions violating our laws and then what?

The CBO reported that the proposed immigration bill the democrats want to pass will raise unemployment and lower wages. Tell me if the majority of Americans will go for that? I doubt it.

Im for helping Hispanics but not ignoring our laws for votes.

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Old 09-02-2013, 10:50 PM
 
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, the sadistic behavior of the radical right (self deportation, "Let him die" (in response to question about dealing with uninsured) has caused most of the issues the GOP has had in the swing states that win POTUS elections.
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what's wrong with self deportation?.......don't give jobs to illegals and don't give them handouts at taxpayers expense and they will eventually return to their country....that's a lot better and more humane than what Mexico and the rest of the world handles their illegals which is prison time or a beating

what is so radical about enforcing our laws?..........Liberals will sell the country out for votes and that is so sad.

Again, what's wrong in enforcing our laws in the books and protecting the border and being PRO LEGAL IMMIGRATION like any country in the world?.......i guess that is radical to you.
 
Old 09-03-2013, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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what's wrong with self deportation?.......don't give jobs to illegals and don't give them handouts at taxpayers expense and they will eventually return to their country....that's a lot better and more humane than what Mexico and the rest of the world handles their illegals which is prison time or a beating

what is so radical about enforcing our laws?..........Liberals will sell the country out for votes and that is so sad.

Again, what's wrong in enforcing our laws in the books and protecting the border and being PRO LEGAL IMMIGRATION like any country in the world?.......i guess that is radical to you.
Ah, it is not just Liberals that support immigration reform. 60 percent of Republican voters support the Senate bill.
Immigration
 
Old 09-03-2013, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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No No No! Said nothing about open borders. All I am saying if the GOP wants to gain votes from Hispanics, they will not do so without being willing to deal with the current illegal population in a humane and practical way. That aside how easy do you think it would be for a Republican candidate to win a national election with only 30 percent of the Hispanic vote?
and don't you think the new immigration bill, now in the house does address the problems in a pretty humane way? What more would you like to see in the bill?
 
Old 09-03-2013, 08:08 AM
 
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Ah, it is not just Liberals that support immigration reform. 60 percent of Republican voters support the Senate bill.
Immigration

60% of republican voters support amnesty?......LOL....where do u come up with that number?

Big Business loves this bill, CHEAP LABOR........ The CBO reports this bill will raise unemployment and lower wages especially in the latino/black communities which unemployment is already high with minorities but latinos are dumb enough to keep voting democrat who are looking out for them, LMAO!

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Old 09-03-2013, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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and don't you think the new immigration bill, now in the house does address the problems in a pretty humane way? What more would you like to see in the bill?
Oh yea? Have not seen anything concrete from the House as of yet.
 
Old 09-03-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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60% of republican voters support amnesty?......LOL....where do u come up with that number?

Big Business loves this bill, CHEAP LABOR........ The CBO reports this bill will raise unemployment and lower wages especially in the latino/black communities which unemployment is already high with minorities but latinos are dumb enough to keep voting democrat who are looking out for them, LMAO!
Did you bother to click on the link, or are you one of those that dis-believes polls when the results are not in your favor? Just in case, I will re post the link.

Immigration
 
Old 09-03-2013, 10:22 AM
 
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polls? LMAO.......ok that's evidence there......a poll of only 1,468 people in a country over 320 million residents, LMAO!....polls are worthless because its how they ask the question to get a specific response but it doesn't tell the whole story of the bill.


if the question in the poll is asked: would you be for an immigration reform bill that the CBO reports that will increase unemployment and lower wages......what do you think the results of the poll would say?



its silly how they take the good part of the bill that the majority likes in a poll question and ignore the other part and the CBO report which is that it will raise unemployment and lower wages for the middle class and low income families.



....don't be an amateur!
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