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Old 09-12-2013, 10:05 PM
 
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They lack the votes to defund it. Red states pay less than they get back, defund gov't (it would have to be total shutdown to get to Obamacare), you get big cuts to Farm subsidies, TVA, etc, and the first states whining for relief will be red. The first states with unemployment soaring will be red. That is why the GOP is performing a farce, ceremonial House bills to eliminate Obamacare.they don't want to trade red state aid for Obamacare being eliminated..and they fooled you ..that is no surprise.

They know the farce is safe, as the Democratic Senate and POTUS will mean what the House does means zippo.
the debacle of Obamacare will start soon......its already not popular with the nation. ......it will hurt all states. We are not in election mode with the red vs blue states, this will hurt every state and raise unemployment.

this debate will continue for 2014 and 2016............if Obamacare is not popular with the nation, I don't see how can this help any democrat running for office.

 
Old 09-12-2013, 10:09 PM
 
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the debacle of Obamacare will start soon......its already not popular with the nation. ......it will hurt all states. We are not in election mode with the red vs blue states, this will hurt every state and raise unemployment.

this debate will continue for 2014 and 2016............if Obamacare is not popular with the nation, I don't see how can this help any democrat running for office.
If you don't see it, that is great news for the Dems. Since based on 2008 and 2012, America is of a different opinion than you for POTUS, and Obama ran on a National Health Care plan. Last I checked, he won..twice..with ease..with his 116 electoral vote edge in 2012 being his closest romp.
 
Old 09-12-2013, 10:18 PM
 
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If you don't see it, that is great news for the Dems. Since based on 2008 and 2012, America is of a different opinion than you for POTUS, and Obama ran on a National Health Care plan. Last I checked, he won..twice..with ease..with his 116 electoral vote edge in 2012 being his closest romp.

big deal, Democrats won twice in a row for the WH, like the GOP has never done that before....LOL

Since 1968, Republicans have won the WH 7 times to 5 times Democrats.......they have changed control of congress 3 times in 20 years...........the nation is not in love with either party and will vote them out of office in a heartbeat.

We will see what is the mood of the nation in 2016 to see if they want an Obama 3rd term., my money is it will not be lock, not even close.
 
Old 11-18-2016, 08:40 PM
 
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The GOP’s biggest problem is that Democrats start with 246 electoral votes

Can a Republican Win 270 Electoral Votes in 2016...or Ever? - The Daily Beast
LOL, she didn't even end with 246 electoral votes. What a joke.

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The Republican Party will probably never win another national election. They sealed their fate with bush - they just don't realize it yet.
I guess the rest of the country didn't get the memo.
 
Old 11-18-2016, 08:41 PM
 
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The electoral college wasn't so unfair before the election wasn't it libs?
 
Old 11-18-2016, 09:59 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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GOP now has House, Senate, WH, and soon the Supreme Court.
 
Old 11-18-2016, 10:12 PM
 
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The Republican Party will probably never win another national election. They sealed their fate with bush - they just don't realize it yet.
Another brilliant call. I would like to hear WestCobb analysis of what happened. I agree that Hillary snatched defeat out of the hands of victory but the rejection of Democrats was nationwide....sure, Hillary won the popular vote but Republicans won the House, Senate and the overwhelming majority of state governments.

So I say (somewhat jokingly)....The Democrat Party will never win a national election....they sealed their fate with Obama/Hillary....they just don't realize it yet.
 
Old 11-18-2016, 10:39 PM
 
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The Republican Party will probably never win another national election. They sealed their fate with bush - they just don't realize it yet.
How does crow taste?
 
Old 11-19-2016, 01:06 AM
 
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The electoral college wasn't so unfair before the election wasn't it libs?
Haha yeah. They cry about the popular vote now.
 
Old 11-19-2016, 06:01 AM
 
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The GOP’s biggest problem is that Democrats start with 246 electoral votes

Can a Republican Win 270 Electoral Votes in 2016...or Ever? - The Daily Beast

Some of those 246 went AWOL.
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