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Old 06-18-2016, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Were you conservatives really born yesterday?

The only party that has ever fought successfully for for the LGBT community is the Democratic Party. The Republican Party has fought tooth and nail against LGBTs for decades, and even currently is fighting to block progress and to protect people who want to discriminate against LGBTs based on religion.

It is unbelievable that conservatives think that LGBTs "do better" with Republicans. You are fooling yourselves only.

Conservatives I guess fail to realize that LGBTs are not afraid of Muslims, but instead feel solidarity with them and other oppressed minority groups, because we all know what it is like to be demonized and attacked by the racist and homophobic Right. While conservatives don't know how NOT to demonize minority groups, the minority groups have been banding together and supporting each other.

"This is a time for the Muslim and LGBT communities to not merely stand together but to deepen their understanding of each other, to recognize their common interests, and to acknowledge their shared members."

Gay Pride, Ramadan, and Solidarity After Orlando | The Nation


May I ask what planet you live on? Keep reading.....

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There isn't, in the old day Jesus would be calling Trump a snake, viper, liar, and thief.
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Not a misprint. 2%

When asked which Republican is most supportive of LGBT rights, 73 percent said none

Can anybody actually be surprised about this?? Really? Seriously?

Clinton Beats Sanders in Survey of LGBT Voters; Trump Is Top Republican With 2% - Towleroad
Speaking of "surprised", "really", "seriously", "snake", "viper", "liar", "thief", and of course the true definition of a hypocrite, how can anyone who is gay or straight for that matter support hil/the dems with this kind of record?

Rights groups silent as Clinton Foundation takes millions from countries that imprison gays | Fox News

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But published reports and figures provided by the Clinton Foundation on its website show the group has accepted millions from countries that prosecute and imprison gay people – and worse. The following is an overview of those contributions, as well as policies from donor nations as detailed by the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association (ILGA).
  • Algeria: ($250,000-$500,000) Algerian law states: "Anyone guilty of a homosexual act is punishable with imprisonment.”
  • Brunei: ($1 million-$5 million) Brunei's penal code states: "Whoever voluntarily has carnal intercourse against the order of nature with any man, woman, or animal, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 10 years."
  • Jamaica: ($50,000-$100,000) Gay men caught having sex face up to 10 years in prison.
  • Kuwait: ($5 million-$10 million) Kuwaiti law states: "Consensual intercourse between men of full age (from the age of 21) shall be punishable with a term of imprisonment of up to seven years."
  • Oman: ($1 million-$5 million) Law states: "Anyone who commits erotic acts with a person of the same sex shall be sentenced to imprisonment from six months to three years."
  • Qatar: ($1 million-$5 million) Sentences for acts of homosexuality range from one to seven years in prison.
  • Saudi Arabia: ($10 million-$25 million) Islamic law in Saudi Arabia enforces penalties for homosexual sex, ranging from public flogging to death. For a non-Muslim who commits sodomy with a Muslim, the penalty is death by stoning.
  • United Arab Emirates: ($1 million-$5 million) Emirati law states: "All sexual acts outside of heterosexual marriage are banned in the United Arab Emirates."
Based on the data, it sure sounds to me that hil and the dems, by association with hillary, are the anti-gay one's based on these disturbing/sick actions.

And the dems/hil supporters are the "educated" one's? Beyond laughable.
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Old 06-18-2016, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I'm gay. I will vote for Hillary. Every single gay person I know will vote for Hillary. Every single gay person I know tells me every single gay person they know will vote for Hillary.

You mean the same Hillary who got millions for the Clinton Foundation from countries who push gays off buildings? See above post for details. That Hillary?? Why would you support someone who is lying to your face about supporting you. Four years ago she was against gay marriage and so was Obama....
If you want protection your loyalties should be with Trump. He will protect you with or without you supporting him.
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Old 06-18-2016, 02:26 PM
 
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The Orlando shooter was a U.S. citizen who was born in New York. And that militant white man who was caught on his way to shoot gay people at LA Pride was NOT Muslim. So what would have Trumps stated policies have done to stop the mass murder?

The shooters PARENTS have ties to radical Islam....Had they been vetted before they came here and not allowed to be admitted to this country the shooter would have been born in another country
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Old 06-18-2016, 02:36 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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The shooters PARENTS have ties to radical Islam....Had they been vetted before they came here and not allowed to be admitted to this country the shooter would have been born in another country
Yah. Tell it to Reagan. He let them in.
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Old 06-18-2016, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Yah. Tell it to Reagan. He let them in.

Point is it has to stop and Hillary isn't going to do anything but let even more in even when it is a known fact that there will be terrorists among the immigrants she welcomes to this country
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Old 06-18-2016, 03:02 PM
 
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Yah. Tell it to Reagan. He let them in.

Doesn't matter who started it, do you really support having even more come in? Besides, Regan was before 911 how could he have known...Now that we DO know it is just foolish to continue this absurd practice with people who want to kill us
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Old 06-18-2016, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Yah. Tell it to Reagan. He let them in.
Bad move by reagan.

And from the lady who says the "mexico border is secure"?

Hillary Clinton says U.S.-Mexico border is secure - Washington Times

And beyond?

Hillary Clinton vows to expand Obama amnesty - Washington Times

Again, the dems are supposedly the "Educated" one's, eh?

So far in this one page of a thread, most logical people would say hillary is anti-gay and anti following federal law in regards to the border. And anti-woman for the same reason she's anti-gay, taking $ from regimes/countries who treat woman horribly.

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Old 06-18-2016, 04:48 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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What contortions you have to go through to try to appear pro-LGBT. It isn't working.

You act like LGBTs never faced discrimination or death at the hands of conservatives before the Orlando shooting.
Conservatives haven't executed a mass massacre of LGBTs. As much as you hate conservatives, perhaps LGBTs would rather take their chances with immigrants and 2nd generations from Muslim countries in which the penalty for being LGBT is DEATH.

Their choice, no?
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Old 06-19-2016, 03:14 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Originally Posted by emanresu1 View Post
Not a misprint. 2%

When asked which Republican is most supportive of LGBT rights, 73 percent said none

Can anybody actually be surprised about this?? Really? Seriously?

Clinton Beats Sanders in Survey of LGBT Voters; Trump Is Top Republican With 2% - Towleroad


That's about their percentage in the population, so who the hell cares.
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Old 06-19-2016, 06:07 AM
 
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Clinton would like to protect the gays from extremist hell bent on causing harm.
"Extremists hell bent on causing harm" would be the Muslims.

But Hillary wants tens of thousands more of them in this country -- even when the CIA and FBI say that we can't vet them to weed out terrorists, much less gay haters.

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One of these two approaches is against the Constitution and prejudiced by its very nature. Guess which one?
We have a right to pick and choose who comes to this country.

Doing so, even based on religion, is not unconstitutional.

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Originally Posted by Capsuleneo View Post
The Orlando shooter was a U.S. citizen who was born in New York. And that militant white man who was caught on his way to shoot gay people at LA Pride was NOT Muslim. So what would have Trumps stated policies have done to stop the mass murder?
If the Orlando shooter -- a Muslim -- had not been admitted here in the first place, then his son wouldn't have been here to commit the massacre.

Trump's policy should have been put in place right after the Munich Olympics massacre in the 1970s.

America is a slow-learning country.

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How would he do that, even if he wanted to? Even the proposed Muslim travel ban is meant to be temporary.
It should be permanent.

Islam is against democracy, personal freedom and basic human rights.

It is also against religious pluralism and secularism -- not to mention gay rights and women's rights.

It just doesn't fit into our society and never will.

But the liberals, leftists and dems want Muslims to come here.

Which makes absolutely no sense -- but then they never do make any sense.

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Were you conservatives really born yesterday?

The only party that has ever fought successfully for for the LGBT community is the Democratic Party.
Oh, please.

Obama was against gay marriage and only became "for it" after getting reelected.

I don't call that "fighting tooth and nail."

Bill Clinton signed off on DOMA and Don't Ask Don't Tell.

He was against gay marriage and so was Hillary.

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It is unbelievable that conservatives think that LGBTs "do better" with Republicans. You are fooling yourselves only.
Oh, really?

Which party wants to import Muslims who hate gays into this country?

Why, the Democratic party, that's who.

Not the Republican party.

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Conservatives I guess fail to realize that LGBTs are not afraid of Muslims, but instead feel solidarity with them and other oppressed minority groups
Why would you feel "solidarity" with people who think you should be executed for being gay?

And in what ways are Muslims "oppressed" in this country?

It seems to me that they are the ones who WANT to oppress others -- starting with gays and women, and then moving on to Jews, Christians and atheists.

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And only one of the two losers defended the rapist of a 12 year old girl and then laughed about it....and that loser was NOT Trump.
Exactly.

It was Hillary -- who will always defend women UNLESS a rapist is her client, or a woman is victimized by her husband or by Muslims.

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You have that exactly backwards. Obama, Hillary, and the Dems are all about aiding and abetting Muslim immigrants. The penalty for being LGBT is DEATH in most Muslim countries in the world. Do LGBTs really want to import even more of that systemic belief into the US? Seriously?
Well said.

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You act like LGBTs never faced discrimination or death at the hands of conservatives before the Orlando shooting.
When was there ever a death penalty in this country just for being gay?

Being gay will get you the death penalty in many Muslim countries.

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You mean the same Hillary who got millions for the Clinton Foundation from countries who push gays off buildings?....If you want protection your loyalties should be with Trump. He will protect you with or without you supporting him.
Well said.

And I've never heard of Trump saying anything against gays, or gay marriage, or gays in the military.

But Bill and Hillary were against them, and Obama was against gay marriage.

In this election, it is the Republican candidate -- Trump -- who is more liberal when it comes to gays.

And he is the only candidate who wants to protect them from Muslims.

So why do so many gays support Hillary instead of Trump?

Because they're ignorant and just do what their self-appointed "leaders" tell them to do.

They -- like liberals in general -- are indoctrinated into hatred of this country and an attitude that says that people from the Third World can do no wrong.

They would even rather support groups that persecute them than achieve their own liberation.

Thus, when gay marriage failed at the voting booth in California, it failed because blacks and Latinos voted against it.

But you couldn't mention that fact in the gay press.

They are so brainwashed that they don't see what is right in front of their faces.

It's just another example of why democracy ultimately fails.

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