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Old 07-13-2016, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Trump's unfavorables far outweigh Clinton's.

Sad!
Obviously it depends who you ask
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Old 07-13-2016, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Go look up FiveThirtyEight and Road to 270 as predictors and state by state electoral college estimations.

But if you want to believe a wing and a prayer, please proceed...
So just go w/ what the media says, what Hillary supporters want?

Why have an election if all you or the media desire are sycophants?

Are you saying it's decided?

Is this the way to handle future elections--by not having one, just to go w/ the media and "estimations", is this the precedent you would like to see set?

What's the point of thinking about our choices, of having a vote--are you saying it doesn't matter? Are you for a dictatorship of media and their employers?

Is that the point, to just fall in line because the media and you would like people to do?

There is no right wing/ left wing narrative anymore, not for a long time-- just a distraction to make it appear our elected officials had any scruples or principles
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Old 07-13-2016, 08:00 AM
 
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And, he doesn't much care to attempt to overcome that, either...

"Overall, Trump’s convention is going to look like a boys’ locker room compared to a Democratic convention focused upon the first female presidential nominee of a major party. The heart of Trump’s problem is that top Republican women, especially women of color, are distancing themselves from him and his convention."

Well, actually, it isn't just women. He has a problem with any minority...

"A Quinnipiac poll taken late last month found Trump registering exactly one percent support among African-American voters with Clinton garnering 91 percent.
Among Latina women, a Fox News Latino poll in May found Clinton leading Trump by 68 percent to 17 percent."

Juan Williams: Trump's problem with women runs deep | TheHill

The Republican party has always had difficulty in getting minorities to vote for them as they aren't the party of socialism. Tell us something we don't know already. Hispanics want amnesty for their illegal amigos and the GOP won't deliver that to them either. No surprises there. As for women I can't speak for them all but many let their emotions rule. My wife is an exception to that rule and I thank God for that.
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Old 07-13-2016, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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So just go w/ what the media says, what Hillary supporters want?

Why have an election if all you or the media desire are sycophants?

Are you saying it's decided?

Is this the way to handle future elections--by not having one, just to go w/ the media and "estimations", is this the precedent you would like to see set?

What's the point of thinking about our choices, of having a vote--are you saying it doesn't matter? Are you for a dictatorship of media and their employers?

Is that the point, to just fall in line because the media and you would like people to do?

There is no right wing/ left wing narrative anymore, not for a long time-- just a distraction to make it appear our elected officials had any scruples or principles
Of course not. One still has to go out and get out the vote.

That said, Clinton has the infrastructure, field operations in the states to do that. Trump doesn't.
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Old 07-13-2016, 03:33 PM
 
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The Republican party has always had difficulty in getting minorities to vote for them as they aren't the party of socialism. Tell us something we don't know already. Hispanics want amnesty for their illegal amigos and the GOP won't deliver that to them either. No surprises there. As for women I can't speak for them all but many let their emotions rule. My wife is an exception to that rule and I thank God for that.
that was kind of sexist.

Your wife may not be "an exception" at all.

I know a lot of logical women, and they are all voting for Trump.
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Old 07-13-2016, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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that was kind of sexist.

Your wife may not be "an exception" at all.

I know a lot of logical women, and they are all voting for Trump.
And Trump is a male who definitely lets his emotions rule his actions. Look at how thin-skinned he is and how he attacks others willy-nilly.

Well, there will be women who vote from Trump. Just like there will be African Americans or Hispanics who vote for Republicans (and by extension, Trump). Just not the majority.
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Old 07-13-2016, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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if trump doesn't do well with women, that says a lot about women....and none of it good.
Actually it says a lot, because chances are that there are women who have had a piggish, sexist, bosses and others in real life like Trump. And maybe they're not too crazy about that.
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Old 07-13-2016, 03:52 PM
 
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Actually it says a lot, because chances are that there are women who have had a piggish, sexist, bosses and others in real life like Trump. And maybe they're not too crazy about that.
you make my point for me, none of that has to do with if he will be a great president or not, you don't have to be a 'nice guy' to build a wall or crush the bad guys.

you're not marrying him or hanging out with him at dinner, so it doesn't matter if he's a quality human being or not, all that matters is if he keeps you and your family safe from harm....you're not hiring him to do anything else.
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Old 07-13-2016, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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OP you are wrong - where are you getting your information. CNN the Clinton News Network?

It is a fact more republicans are voting this year due to the silent minority coming out to support Trump at his rally's..

Have you been to a Trump rally? I have standing in line for almost two hours and getting inside. Standing with 1000's pf men and women, whites, blacks, Asians, Spanish of all ages. Everyone I spoke to was concerned with the future of America - not four more years of the last eight years.


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Really? Are these the same supposed "silent majority" of Righties who were supposed to come out to vote for McCain and Romney in 2004 and 2008 but didn't because McCain and Romney were "conservative" enough for them? If so, then their definition of "conservative" apparently begins with "narcissistic, ignorant, anti-gay, anti-black, anti-Latino misogynistic demented moron" and ends with a picture of orange haired Donald Trump.
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Old 07-13-2016, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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The Republican party has always had difficulty in getting minorities to vote for them as they aren't the party of socialism. Tell us something we don't know already. Hispanics want amnesty for their illegal amigos and the GOP won't deliver that to them either. No surprises there. As for women I can't speak for them all but many let their emotions rule. My wife is an exception to that rule and I thank God for that.
Totally untrue. Until 1932, blacks who were allowed to vote voted almost exclusively for Republicans. Between the 1930s and the early 1970s, blacks voted about 50 percent for Republican candidates. Since the 1970s when the GOP embraced racism by sucking up to white segregationists like Strom Thurmond and Trent Lott, the percentage of blacks who vote for Republican candidates has continued to shrink to less than 10% in presidential elections.

Blacks vote against the Republicans because the GOP has become the party of racism. All one has to do is read the posts from self-identified Republicans and Right wingers on this message board to recognize the truth of that statement. That Righties deny their own racism shows exactly how deep it runs. Southern bigots denied they were racists for generations, too, when they repeatedly denied blacks their rights by law and by terrorism.
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