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Old 10-20-2018, 11:55 AM
 
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And CS Lewis would have been appalled at the neo-Nazi alt-right religious band taking over the historical GOP
Trump has caved to Pence and his religious right wing to ensure his "base" doesnt' slip away
Trump had no more idea of what the Federalist Society espouses than my dog does
But he is all for using its list of judges if it gets him elected
Who is more morally bankrupt--the man who enslaves himself to his own unquenchable thirst for power or people who act the way they do because they believe it supports their own myopic view of religious correctness??

 
Old 10-20-2018, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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And CS Lewis would have been appalled at the neo-Nazi alt-right religious band taking over the historical GOP
Trump has caved to Pence and his religious right wing to ensure his "base" doesnt' slip away
Trump had no more idea of what the Federalist Society espouses than my dog does
But he is all for using its list of judges if it gets him elected
Who is more morally bankrupt--the man who enslaves himself to his own unquenchable thirst for power or people who act the way they do because they believe it supports their own myopic view of religious correctness??
Once you start calling your opposition neo-Nazi's you lose all credibility whatsoever. Your dog probably knows more about the atrocities of the Third Reich than you do. Making that comparison is an insult to all those who have suffered and died under it, along with those who fought so valiantly against it. When you can't win an argument just call your opposition Nazi's. A familiar tactic of the fascist Left.

The CS Lewis quote describes the Democrat Party to a tee. It's the Left who are indeed "omnipotent moral busybodies" who love to torment others for their own good. Gun control and the loss of due process under the law and innocent till proven guilty are good examples. And indeed they are making it hell on earth for those of us that have to live under their social policies. That's just one of the main reasons why we packed up and left that God awful socialist welfare State of New York. Which by the way is one of the top state's for out migration in the United States. According to Forbes and Politifact New York leads the nation in out migration followed by Illinois and California. All three are Democrat strongholds and coincidentally have the highest costs of living out of all the states. So much for the Democrats being the party of the common man and champions of the middle class.

It's the Democrat Party that wishes to enslave people to the socialist welfare state of which they will have absolute power and control over every aspect of our lives. It's the reason why they want open borders and the importation of tens of millions of invaders from third world hell holes. In order to perpetuate and expand a permanent underclass that will be forever dependent on government for their everyday needs. Below is the platform of the Democrat Party. Does any of this sound familiar?

There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a socialist state. The first is the most important.


1 Healthcare—control healthcare and you control the people.


2 Poverty—increase the poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.


3 Debt—increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.


4 Gun control—Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.


5 Welfare—Take control of every aspect of their lives (food, housing, income).


6 Education—Take control of what people read and listen to–take control of what children learn in school.


7 Religion—Remove the belief in God from the Government and schools.


8 Class warfare—Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

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"The law has been used to destroy it's own objective; It has been applied to annihilating the justice that it was supposed to maintain; to limiting and destroying rights which it's real purpose was to respect. The law has placed the collective force at the disposal of the unscrupulous who wish, without risk, to exploit the person, liberty, and property of others. It has converted plunder into a right in order to protect plunder. And it has converted lawful defense into a crime, in order to punish lawful defense." "But it is also true that a man may live and satisfy his wants by seizing and consuming the products of the labor of others. This process is the origin of plunder." --- The Law by Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850) French economist, statesman
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Democrats prefer socialism to capitalism, Gallup poll finds
www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/...
Democrats have a more positive view of socialism than capitalism, poll finds. A majority of Democrats no longer hold a positive view of capitalism, while nearly 60 percent feel good about ...

Democrats More Positive About Socialism Than Capitalism
news.gallup.com/poll/240725/democrats-positive...
Views of socialism among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents are particularly important in the current political environment because many observers have claimed the Democratic Party is turning in more of a socialist direction.

Gallup: A 1st: Dems favor socialism over capitalism
onenewsnow.com/politics-govt/2018/08/26/gallup-a...
Democrats now view socialism more favorably than capitalism, according to a recent Gallup Poll, marking the first time over the past decade that the blue party has preferred the failed political/economic system over private ownership.

Poll: Democrats prefer socialism to capitalism - CBS News
www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-democrats-prefer...
Of the Democrats who responded to the questionnaire, 57 percent view socialism positively while 47 percent view capitalism positively. Gallup Just two years ago in 2016, 56 percent of Dems had a positive view of capitalism.
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The Biggest Losers

High costs go a long way to explain which states are losing the most migrants. At the top, or rather, the bottom of the list is New York State, which had an abysmal 65.4 attraction ratio in 2014 and lost by far the most net migrants, an astounding 126,000 people. Close behind was Illinois, a high tax, high regulation, and low growth disaster area. In 2014 the Land of Lincoln had an abysmal 67.2 attraction ratio, losing a net 82,000 domestic migrants.

Most of the other top people-exporting states are in the Northeast and Midwest. But the West, traditionally the magnet for newcomers, now also has some major losers, including Alaska (80.1), New Mexico (84.6) and Wyoming (88.6). The outflow for some of these western states may get worse, unless prices for natural resources like coal, oil, gas and minerals do not recover in the near future.

And then there is the big enchilada, California. For generations, the Golden State developed a reputation as the ultimate destination of choice for millions of Americans. No longer. Since 2000 the state has lost 1.75 million net domestic migrants, according to Census Bureau estimates. And even amid an economic recovery, the pattern of outmigration continued in 2014, with a loss of 57,900 people and an attraction ratio of 88.5, placing the Golden State 13th from the bottom, well behind longtime people exporters Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky and Louisiana. California was a net loser of domestic migrants in all age categories.--https://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2016/09/06/the-states-gaining-and-losing-the-most-migrants-and-money/#44b14a9a52d7
What the hell does religion have to do with any of this? Socialism/Communism has nothing to do with religion other than to destroy it and the freedom to worship whatever religion you choose. Government is the almighty God according to the Left.
 
Old 10-20-2018, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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You're entirely free to vote for Lyin' Ted, should you choose to.




Only two weeks until we see for certain.



I'm not voting in Texas. I have met Ted Cruz. One of my parents co-chaired a fundraiser for him in Illinois back in 2012. I wouldn't say I found him likable or unlikable. He seemed fairly personable. He came across as very intelligent, passionate, and aggressive. Those were qualities we liked. I think he serves his purpose. He is a conservative warrior who ruffles a lot of feathers. He keeps the pressure on for Republicans to deliver on their promises. I think he should be re-elected. John Cornyn is the polar opposite and is an influential fundraiser and dealmaker. I think Texas has pretty good representation.
 
Old 10-20-2018, 09:32 PM
 
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Still upset, I see.

Very upset.


lol - and that's your best shot? Pathetic. And when Ted wins re-election, and you know he will, I will be dancing in the street.


p.s. - you forgot your little "carry on" sign off.
 
Old 10-21-2018, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Texas
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lol - and that's your best shot? Pathetic. And when Ted wins re-election, and you know he will, I will be dancing in the street.
Good for you.

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p.s. - you forgot your little "carry on" sign off.
Yep

Still upset.

 
Old 10-21-2018, 07:18 AM
 
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Ted is a lock in Texas, so who will all the usual left wing loony toons on hear will blame it on? Russians? Trump? Ivanka? Fox News? They will never consider that their candidate just sucked.
 
Old 10-21-2018, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Ted is a lock in Texas, so who will all the usual left wing loony toons on hear will blame it on? Russians? Trump? Ivanka? Fox News? They will never consider that their candidate just sucked.
It's not just that their candidates suck, it's the principles and platform of which the Democrat Party stands for that suck. I never have or never would vote for a Democrat no matter who they nominate for any public office.
 
Old 10-21-2018, 09:49 PM
 
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Once you start calling your opposition neo-Nazi's you lose all credibility whatsoever. Your dog probably knows more about the atrocities of the Third Reich than you do. Making that comparison is an insult to all those who have suffered and died under it, along with those who fought so valiantly against it. When you can't win an argument just call your opposition Nazi's. A familiar tactic of the fascist Left.

The CS Lewis quote describes the Democrat Party to a tee. It's the Left who are indeed "omnipotent moral busybodies" who love to torment others for their own good. Gun control and the loss of due process under the law and innocent till proven guilty are good examples. And indeed they are making it hell on earth for those of us that have to live under their social policies. That's just one of the main reasons why we packed up and left that God awful socialist welfare State of New York. Which by the way is one of the top state's for out migration in the United States. According to Forbes and Politifact New York leads the nation in out migration followed by Illinois and California. All three are Democrat strongholds and coincidentally have the highest costs of living out of all the states. So much for the Democrats being the party of the common man and champions of the middle class.

It's the Democrat Party that wishes to enslave people to the socialist welfare state of which they will have absolute power and control over every aspect of our lives. It's the reason why they want open borders and the importation of tens of millions of invaders from third world hell holes. In order to perpetuate and expand a permanent underclass that will be forever dependent on government for their everyday needs. Below is the platform of the Democrat Party. Does any of this sound familiar?

There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a socialist state. The first is the most important.


1 Healthcare—control healthcare and you control the people.


2 Poverty—increase the poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.


3 Debt—increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.


4 Gun control—Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.


5 Welfare—Take control of every aspect of their lives (food, housing, income).


6 Education—Take control of what people read and listen to–take control of what children learn in school.


7 Religion—Remove the belief in God from the Government and schools.


8 Class warfare—Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.







What the hell does religion have to do with any of this? Socialism/Communism has nothing to do with religion other than to destroy it and the freedom to worship whatever religion you choose. Government is the almighty God according to the Left.

I have no time to read all of this, but on #7 - yes, religion of any type has no place in MY government and in MY schools. Where by MY I mean paid by MY tax money. Let me know if you have any questions.
 
Old 10-22-2018, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I have no time to read all of this, but on #7 - yes, religion of any type has no place in MY government and in MY schools. Where by MY I mean paid by MY tax money. Let me know if you have any questions.
Geez! I never realized it was YOUR government paid for by YOUR taxes and the schools belong to YOU. I guess nobody else pays taxes but YOU?

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Preamble to the Declaration of Independence:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
"endowed, by their Creator" Whomever or whatever "their creator" may be? One things for sure it's not the almighty government paid for by YOUR taxes. Take the word God out of everything and you no longer have inalienable rights that are "endowed by their Creator" only rights that are endowed by YOUR government. Let me know if you have any questions? If you can't figure any of this out, I'll be sure not to answer them.
 
Old 10-22-2018, 08:17 AM
 
Location: DFW
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lol - and that's your best shot? Pathetic. And when Ted wins re-election, and you know he will, I will be dancing in the street.


p.s. - you forgot your little "carry on" sign off.
Gringo will be crying in his morning Tequila in about 2 weeks.

He couldn't get a Senator who pretends to be Mexican elected so he'll try to get a President who pretends to be Indian elected.
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