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Old 01-16-2019, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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The rift can be traced all the way back to the 1960's, with the emergence of Barry Goldwater and William Buckley as frank (for educated conservatives), but unsettling (for working-class voters) voices for a conservative stance; that polarization led to a landslide vote for Lyndon Johnson in 1964, but the Democrats soon began fighting among themselves, with the older labor union/big city alliance pitted against an emerging countercultural and anti-Vietnam war element (who were an anathema to many socially-conservative Democrats).

The process repeated itself, with variations, through the rise and fall of Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter, who was perceived as a weakling after the debacle in Iran -- and the Republican/conservative opposition fractured into libertarian (lower-case 'l' - please) and traditionalist contingents based upon religious- and nationalistically-based objectives. The Democrats, meanwhile, have clearly revealed their open-border strategy as means for establishing super-majorities in urbanized states, and building a one-party nation along the lines of Mexico's Institutional Revolutionary (?) Party (PRI).

The process will likely continue ad infinitum, and ad nauseam.

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Old 01-16-2019, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Nobody wanted to relive the Carter years, which were disasterous. Inflation and interest rates approached 20%, the economy was terrible, and there was a general sense of despair among Americans about the future of the country. Reagan changed all that.
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The hostage crisis and failed rescue mission affected the 1980 election.
This was 1984 and he ran against Mondale.
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Old 01-16-2019, 03:24 PM
 
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The Democrat party in 2018 looks an awful lot like the 1980ish Democrat party. 2020 candidates being rolled out by the party are starting to resemble Mondale and the party's pitch.

Today's Democrat Party harvest of democratic socialist, sjw and sundry aggrieved partisans may be exciting in the short term, but ultimately will get rejected as too out there.
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Old 01-16-2019, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Who remembers when Ronald Reagan won 49 states (all except Minnesota, Mondale’s Home State) in 1984 against Walter Mondale? Many of those states are now solidly Democratic, and have been for a long time. How did he do it?
Did you see the advertisement with Michael Doofus riding in an M1 Abrams? He looked like a small child, specifically to wit: Little Boy Lost.

That's not exactly how Americans envision their President, or Commander-in-Chief or the Leader of the Free World.
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Old 01-16-2019, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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The Democrat party in 2018 looks an awful lot like the 1980ish Democrat party. 2020 candidates being rolled out by the party are starting to resemble Mondale and the party's pitch.

Today's Democrat Party harvest of democratic socialist, sjw and sundry aggrieved partisans may be exciting in the short term, but ultimately will get rejected as too out there.

Completely agree! I almost feel sorry for the Democrats today. They try to be appease too broad of a spectrum and in so doing, they tend to alienate the "Average Joe" in America. Their message is well received within their own party but doesn't resonate with moderates, libertarians or conservatives.


The only chance they have of succeeding is to slide back to the center (ala Bill Clinton) for a chance of victory and in so doing, this will **** off the entire city of Portland Oregon (joke joke). In other words, the Dems can be a tough bracket of people to represent these days.
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Old 01-16-2019, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Completely agree! I almost feel sorry for the Democrats today. They try to be appease too broad of a spectrum and in so doing, they tend to alienate the "Average Joe" in America. Their message is well received within their own party but doesn't resonate with moderates, libertarians or conservatives.


The only chance they have of succeeding is to slide back to the center (ala Bill Clinton) for a chance of victory and in so doing, this will **** off the entire city of Portland Oregon (joke joke). In other words, the Dems can be a tough bracket of people to represent these days.
Don't feel sorry for democrats they actually have a base and I doubt if the far left will gain any support. Who exactly is the republican base, certainly not minorities, women or young people. Trumps appeals to a very narrow demographic, where are the votes.
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Old 01-16-2019, 07:15 PM
 
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.....Who exactly is the republican base, certainly not minorities, women or young people. Trumps appeals to a very narrow demographic, where are the votes.

Did you get this from the MSM?
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Old 01-16-2019, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Former land of plenty
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People knew that the Kremlin was (and still is) America's worst enemy and Reagan was a guard dog against them. Not like the lap dog for the Kremlin that we have now.
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Old 01-16-2019, 07:19 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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He was the governor of California!
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Old 01-16-2019, 07:22 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I was pretty young then, but it seems we were a much more moderate country, politically speaking. People would still vote based on policy, not party, skin color, or gender.
We weren't, especially when it came to Reagan. There was likely not a day that went by, except immediately after he was shot by Hinckley, that a Democrat, a news media figure, an activist or an opinion influencer didn't call him a racist. Just look today when he gets blamed for the spread of AIDS even though it took several years for researchers to just figure out what it is.

No people wouldn't.

Yes they did. Hence Geraldine Ferraro.
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