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Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by lilypad
I will be sitting out November and hoping the country survives one of these loons over the next four years. Maybe we as a nation can get up enough guts and smarts to recruit a real leader next time round. Starting now would be good.
We will have a real leader. President Barrack Obama.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by skoro
We haven't had a real conservative in the White House since Eisenhower, it seems to me. Nixon, Bush 41 and Bush 43 have all been corporatists who had little affection for America or its people. Reagan at least showed genuine concern for the nation and his fellow Americans, thus his lasting popularity. But his administration too was under the influence of the megacorps to a large extent.
Consider this: Republicans have held the White House for 28 of the past 40 years. They've held congress for 14 of the past 16 years. They have solid control of the supreme court. Have they accomplished anything at all related to traditinal conservative principles? Has the size of the government contracted or expanded? Has the amount of government intrusion increased or decreased? Has our entaglement in foreign affairs diminished or flourished? For the past couple of decades, I have loyally voted Republican, without giving it much thought. I just assumed they were the good guys and that they'd take care of business and operate the government efficiently while defending the average citizens' rights. But have they done that?
No, the current mutation of conservatism has had a long turn at the wheel. And they've driven America into the ditch. Like millions of other Americans, I'm finally awake and taking a hard look at what these wolves in conservative clothing have done to us. I'm no longer buying their lies and whines about some "liberal agenda" that's responsible for our current sad state.
Out with the neocons. Their time has passed. It's now time to clean up the horrible mess they've left us with.
Eisenhower a conservative? Why insult Ike like that? Ike was a LIBERAL. He was at odds with conservatives att the time. He took em on over the interstate highway system and got it built. If it was up to the conservatives, we would still be driving on 2 lane roads.
He also defeated the conservatives at Little Rock by sending in the Army so the Negro children could go to Central High School. And, although it was Johnson that passed Medicare, it was Ike's idea to begin with.
To you fellow conservatives out there do you realize we've already lost the 2008 election? We don't have to wait for November. It's over.
Obama is a hard core leftist who, if he wins, will stack the courts with loony judges imposing their personal social views on all of us no matter what the people want. He'll raise taxes right and left.
Hillary pretty much the same thing plus her big bureaucratic health care scheme from the 90s all over again.
McCain? ha! His whole career has been kicking conservatives to the curb to make deals with Democrats and with a likely increased majority of Democrats in Congress, he's just going to cut deals with them. he won't fight them.
So what will we get for the next 4 years? Higher taxes, more social engineering, very liberal judges, plus global warming regulation on every business in America.
Ah well, there's always the next election and until then, I still have ESPN.
Kan...Just remember one thing, it could be worse.. you could be Republican and a liberal..
Vote Republican, because not everyone can be on welfare.
Several people have gone off on a tangent on this thread (and getting away from my original post)about conservatives pushing their views on gay marriage, for example, on the rest of us. I'd point out that the gay marriage issue has come up in referendums in at least a dozen states over the last 10 years and in every single election, it has gone down to a landslide defeat. It isn't just conservatives imposing their views on gay marriage, it is a large majority of the people, whether in socially liberal Oregon, where a gay marriage referendum went down to defeat with a 57% NO vote, to socially conservative Louisiana where over 80% voted against it with other states somewhere in between.
Back to my original point, someone like McCain, who opposed tax cuts, favored open borders and more massive illegal immigration(which is what his comprehensive plan would have done), takes a left wing one world view of global warming regulation over our economy, and made deals with Democrats to allow them the option to still be able to filibuster judges from getting up or down votes and only saves his tirades for Republicans, never Democrats, is going to screw us. Will he be better than Hillary or Obama? Yes. But after 4 years of him will we have lower taxes, smaller government, our Mexican border under control and conservative appointments to the supreme court, I doubt it.
I will be writing in Ron Paul even if he doesnt win the republican nom. I will vote with my heart this time and not the party line. It's about time most Americans start voting for the best canidate not the lesser of two evils.
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