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I thought you said you don't care if someone marries a cow and have no problem with same sex marriages?
Do you mean you don't support by not caring one way or another or you do not support as in you are against? Just looking for clarity
Sorry I thought I made that clear. Let's try again.
As long as the union is performed by a civil employee I have no objection to it or whom it unites.
A Marriage however, can be performed in a church by a pastor or priest since it is a recognized function of a religious body. The bible only recognizes and sanctifies a marriage as between a man and a woman.
A Marriage however, can be performed in a church by a pastor or priest since it is a recognized function of a religious body. The bible only recognizes and sanctifies a marriage as between a man and a woman.
And the non-Christian marriages? Oops!
The Bible also recognizes that eating shrimp is a sin, and wives should be slaves to their husbands.
Sounds to me like since you think marriage is strictly a religious ceremony, the government should have no role in it whatsoever, and just hand out civil unions.
Sorry I thought I made that clear. Let's try again.
As long as the union is performed by a civil employee I have no objection to it or whom it unites.
A Marriage however, can be performed in a church by a pastor or priest since it is a recognized function of a religious body. The bible only recognizes and sanctifies a marriage as between a man and a woman.
Obama said a) he does not support gay marriage and b) he believes in a traditional man and woman marriage, not that he is okay as long as it is done by a civil employee.
You said you don't care if same sexes get married as long as it is done by a civil employee. Now if you meant you support civil unions and are against gay marriage then you would be agreeing with Obama but you specifically stated you don't care if gay people get married as long as it is done by a civil employee. Two different statements....one being against gay marriage (Obama) and one being for a gay marriage done by a civil employee (you).
EDIT: FORGET IT....I AM SPLITTING HAIRS AND HONESTLY DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE THIS
I think allowing gay marriages would bring a mess to our society, that's one of the reasons why I'm not voting for Obama because he supports gay marriages
It would be the same benefits as heterosexual marriage; health coverages, taxes, financial benefits, purchasing power etc.
The question was how does gay marriage benefit society...not self.
How does gay marriage benefit our society in a way it does not now?
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If there is a true separation of church and state
That statement is not in the constitution...and it's a fallacy to think the framers of our constitution wanted such a thing. Jefferson didn't even sign the constitution and bowed out because he was not part and partial to the talks and process during the forming of it!
But...this is:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
But this isn't about religion. You are making it out to be...See if you can answer the question posed to you without going on an OT tirade.
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Tell me what is the reason, other than your religious BELIEF (which is faith based) why gays should not be married and again, don't give speculation on what could happen.
Tell me why you believe what you do except, don't say why you believe that.
Opposes CA Prop. 8, one-man-one-woman marriage. (Jul 2008)
Being gay or lesbian is not a choice. (Nov 2007)
Decisions about marriage should be left to the states. (Oct 2007)
Homosexuality no more immoral than heterosexuality. (Oct 2007)
Ok to expose 6-year-olds to gay couples; they know already. (Sep 2007)
Has any marriage broken up because two gays hold hands? (Aug 2007)
We need strong civil unions, not just weak civil unions. (Aug 2007)
Legal rights for gays are conferred by state, not by church. (Aug 2007)
Disentangle gay rights from the word "marriage". (Aug 2007)
Gay marriage is less important that equal gay rights. (Aug 2007)
Gay rights movement is somewhat like civil rights movement. (Aug 2007)
Let each denominations decide on recognizing gay marriage. (Jul 2007)
Pass ENDA and expand hate crime legislation. (Mar 2007)
Opposed 1996 Illinois DOMA bill. (Mar 2007)
Supports health benefits for gay civil partners. (Oct 2006)
Opposes gay marriage; supports civil union & gay equality. (Oct 2006)
I would wager, being progressive and all, that he privately has no problem with it at all, but being in the middle of trying to court those jumping the GOP ship....
I would wager, being progressive and all, that he privately has no problem with it at all, but being in the middle of trying to court those jumping the GOP ship....
Good call.
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