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Old 07-31-2008, 08:50 PM
 
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Another liberal whining and jealous.

Did you stop buying gas then? So you then agreed to use their product correct?

So it was you who allowed them to make these profits.

Why don't you walk then?


And Exxon mobile has how many employees and what do they make a year?

I know one employee who works for them and makes 90k per year on an oil rig. Full free health insurance, paid vacations and much more.

Liberals need to stop being jealous!

Most liberal ran businesses are failures so most of them wouldnt understand.

Exxon--- a great American success story !!!

Go Exxon!!

Ohh by the way, who is going broke? I don't know of anyone who is. Well wait a minute, only welfare type losers are the ones with no money and they were broke long before oil ever was making any money. So they are not really going broke, they have always been broke.

It's called a job !!

I am going to fill up tomorrow to help them make even more next quarter.

SO, THE LIBERALS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE HURTING PEOPLES POCKETS THEN? OK..... So if we drill our own oil and the prices comes down the all of us will have more money in our pockets, now that is something the liberals dont want to happen.

BLAME THE LIBERALS ! They have broken us.
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:53 PM
 
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Ed Mcmahon is broke......

http://www.banks.com/blogs/realestate/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/mcmahon.jpg (broken link)
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:57 PM
 
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That is because he is a known hollywood wacko liberal.
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Old 07-31-2008, 09:07 PM
 
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That is because he is a known hollywood wacko liberal.
I have a serious question for you, honestly. Do you truly believe that when you post hate, biased articles, ridiculously flimsy innuendo and regurgitated nonsense that people are going to actually change their vote or see some enlightenment from your words? I ask just because you really seem into this and it makes me wonder if you are 100% serious about what you post.

You can PM me if you don't want to "blow your cover" and are really just over emphasizing feelings you have in regards to Mccain, Obama or whatever. I just really want to see how many people are true to what they are saying or are just playing a game.
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Old 08-01-2008, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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The American oil industry is a marvel.Its successes and achievements deserve our celebration and national pride.Generations of engineers , inventors,entrepreneurs,and industry leaders have overcome daunting physical and logistical odds, doing their damnedest to bring us an immeasurably helpful and useful product. But no , you have been made to detest oil, to despise the companies that take it out of the ground, refine it, and bring it to us in forms that power our daily lives. You are taught to loath the corporations and exexcutives that dare proft from their own risk,expertise, and service to their fellow countrymen.

Hit. Nail. Head.

This needs to be repeated to every single man, woman, and child in this country who buys into the populist propaganda pushed by left wing statists that the oil companies are "out to get us". The fact of the matter is that they are private companies who take enormous risks and spend enormous amounts of money to provide a service that is in very high demand. They do so in the face of massive amounts of regulations, restrictions, misguided protests, and a geopolitical environment that is, and always has been, incredibly unstable. That these people have the nerve to slam them because they make a profit off of their efforts is disgusting and speaks volumes about their ignorance.

I challenge any of these populist, statist nimrods to show me an industry that provides a product that is in extremely high demand and that is difficult, dangerous, and expensive to obtain, and does so for free. I guarantee that none of the people complaining about "big oil" would open up or run a business where they weren't allowed to profit from their labor, yet that is exactly what these bottom feeders are advocating here.
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Old 08-01-2008, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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The Truth is - we are minimum 15 years from seeing any benefit from drilling. Period.

Even if this was true and it did take that long, so what? This arguement holds absolutely no water when you are talking about the realities of economics and commodities.

The very fact that we are drilling would immediately bring the prices down. This is not rocket science. Drilling today means an increase in supplies in the future. This is where speculators come in, and how they have helped keep prices down even today. If we start drilling today, the price of oil in the futures market will go down because you will have speculators today willing to sell X number of barrels in 10 years at a lower price than if we weren't drilling, based on the probability of increased supplies in the future. So, you will see oil companies such as Exxon, Shell, BP, etc. lining up to by oil futures at a much lower price than they would have been able to buy them yesterday.

I know that economics, supply and demand, and futures can be hard to understand for some people, but this is the basic principle of it.
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Old 08-01-2008, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I love me some OIL!!! Texas and Alaska Secession. We could take the Union down the drain and crush the US economically. How I'd love to bring the United Federal Slave Driving Bureaucracy to its knees. FREEDOM!!!
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Wilkes-Barre,Pa
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Even if this was true and it did take that long, so what? This arguement holds absolutely no water when you are talking about the realities of economics and commodities.

The very fact that we are drilling would immediately bring the prices down. This is not rocket science. Drilling today means an increase in supplies in the future. This is where speculators come in, and how they have helped keep prices down even today. If we start drilling today, the price of oil in the futures market will go down because you will have speculators today willing to sell X number of barrels in 10 years at a lower price than if we weren't drilling, based on the probability of increased supplies in the future. So, you will see oil companies such as Exxon, Shell, BP, etc. lining up to by oil futures at a much lower price than they would have been able to buy them yesterday.

I know that economics, supply and demand, and futures can be hard to understand for some people, but this is the basic principle of it.
I just dont understand why these people cant get it, they have no undrstanding how the makets work in this country, and no understanding of economics,supply and demand.
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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I just dont understand why these people cant get it, they have no undrstanding how the makets work in this country, and no understanding of economics,supply and demand.
They're all just a bunch of goodie-two-shoes liberal arts majors who think that Adam Smith founded the Jamestown colony.
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Old 08-01-2008, 02:01 PM
 
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Thumbs down Big Oil

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Liberals/lefties never cease to amaze me with their "logic"

They complain that the big oil companies are so devious and evil that they are conspiring to rob all of us at the gas pump. Yet they obviously think that they are at the same time stupid, for if they weren't stupid they wouldn't have waited until today, 2008, to "manipulate" and "hike up" gas prices.

If it is not big oil they are blaming then it is the speculators. Yet I guarantee that not one person who complains that speculators are artifically manipulating and inflating the price of oil can explain what exactly it is speculators do.

This is all nothing more than an emotional appeal to populism and it has little, if anything to do with the reality of how the market works.

For the idiots, yes idiots, who think that the solution to high gas prices is to implement more government control over oil companies and/or nationalize oil refineries I have just one question: Are you happy with how the government has been running public education, the Hurrican Katrina recovery, Social Security, etc.?
I'm not an idiot or a lefty. Perhaps if you can make a blank statement that others out here are unaware of what speculators do and their effects perhaps you can again try to enlighten us with your knowledge. Your instant remedy is incorrect.
No, I'm not happy with what this particular Adm. did in the wake of Katrina. Public Ed. is not exclusively run by the Fed. Gov't. Social Security was signed into law on 8-14-1935 the first regular payments were made in 1940. Most people on SS have never missed a payment and neither is the fund broke or by itself going broke. It may require some adjustments in the future. The Gov't. has sucessfully run many depts. and enterprises for years and has employed hundreds of thousands of Americans and others and still does--despite its warts. The US military isn't insignificient.
I am much in favor of a national oil co. with the profits going to our Gov't. and its people. Also large unique Corps. that are crucial to our national security and/or play a pivotal role in our economy should be nationalized. You can now attach your label--but that is what is required--unfortunately.
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