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Old 04-14-2014, 07:11 AM
 
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Kiev is going to cooperate with UN in solving the problem. Wise decision.

Regions should have more rights, I guess federal state is more adequate form (as Belgium, Austria, Germany).

The idea for this region to be "independent" or to become a part of the other country is a bad one.
I don't like it.

In the peninsula at least the situation was more easy to do this and we have some plans how to invest in this region.

But to annex other regions is a crazy thing.
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Old 04-14-2014, 07:37 AM
 
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Gorlovka. Guy thrown off roof during the installation of the Russian flag. Enraged crowd after that stormed the building.



Sturm ended successfully, the Interior Ministry building seized by the separatists.

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Old 04-14-2014, 08:15 AM
 
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But to annex other regions is a crazy thing.
Yes. But Putin will not leave without the help of eastern Ukraine, when people are dying there, as Yeltsin left the Serbs. This greatly bring down his rating, because Russian believe that the residents of eastern Ukraine also Russian, and the invaders have come to them home. Now leave them without the help of equivalent to treason. "Russian is not leave in trouble."

Traps for Russia. Most likely we must prepare for new sanctions.
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:23 AM
 
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Yes. But Putin will not leave without the help of eastern Ukraine, when people are dying there, as Yeltsin left the Serbs. This greatly bring down his rating, because Russian believe that the residents of eastern Ukraine also Russian, and the invaders have come to them home. Now leave them without the help of equivalent to treason. "Russian is not leave in trouble."

Traps for Russia. Most likely we must prepare for new sanctions.
You are right!
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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will not leave without the help of eastern Ukraine, when people are dying there
To be honest, I don't see people dying there. Perhaps one or two during the conflicts.

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This greatly bring down his rating
Why? He can explain that now the situation is different. TV will explain and praise him for being a reasonable man They can "explain" anything.
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:30 AM
 
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Beyond the question of who is right or wrong, (the West or Russia), or who lies the most (Western or Russian medias) I 'm terribly preoccupied by the events in Ukraine. I'm thinking about it all the time, because for us in Europe it's much closer than Syria, Irak or Afghanistan. I sincerely hope reason will prevail, and everybody will finally come to reason.
But I can't help having a bad feeling....
You are afraid of the threat of war? I do not think it is you can touch you. Only if the economy will be affected.
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:36 AM
 
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Why? He can explain that now the situation is different. TV will explain and praise him for being a reasonable man They can "explain" anything.
I think it will depend on the position of other parties, as well as how many resources have been involved.
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:36 AM
 
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To be honest, I don't see people dying there. Perhaps one or two during the conflicts.


Why? He can explain that now the situation is different. TV will explain and praise him for being a reasonable man They can "explain" anything.
You understand that there is a lot of relatives and explanation will not help here. things can change at any moment. As long as people do not die, but if there are constant provocations, then things can change. I understand that people shoot at each other will not be hand-rises. But if it will be mercenaries from other countries, they will start to shoot without remorseor will it be the right sector.
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Old 04-14-2014, 09:17 AM
 
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Do you really think that in Russia want to fight with the Ukrainians? This is the same fight with themselves
You know I just do not see absolutely ANY urgency at all in quelling the 'battle' that began in he Crimea and now spreading like a virus to the eastern and southern regions. I don't know. Does mr. putin want everything to go to hell? So all of a sudden everybody wants to be 'pro Russian now???? It's as if we're in Russian/Ukrainian medical school and we see how a nationalistc pathogen spreads like a wildfire through an ill country. Both Ukraine and Russia needs good doctors now. they're not getting them. Doctor doctor give me a nurse!
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Old 04-14-2014, 10:17 AM
 
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You know I just do not see absolutely ANY urgency at all in quelling the 'battle' that began in he Crimea and now spreading like a virus to the eastern and southern regions. I don't know. Does mr. putin want everything to go to hell? So all of a sudden everybody wants to be 'pro Russian now???? It's as if we're in Russian/Ukrainian medical school and we see how a nationalistc pathogen spreads like a wildfire through an ill country. Both Ukraine and Russia needs good doctors now. they're not getting them. Doctor doctor give me a nurse!
Who told you that? East was from the beginning with Russia. Apparently for you it did not show on your channel.
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