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Sorry but I would have a hard time believing anything concerning the Ukraine from a Russian TV station.
Moscow claims that the current Ukrainian government consists of Banderovtsy's dressed in red and black. Banderovtsy's are extreme right wingers who modeled themselves after the Gestapo during WW2.
Ariete's pictures and that old timey 'Bandera Waltz' got me thinking...
Curious how the following would be received now if sung in the 'East' and 'South'. Question is is it being sung???? Not sure if the anthem would be deemed verboten to be sung now or if the opening words would then elicit cracklin' gunshots into a crowd......
Sorry but I would have a hard time believing anything concerning the Ukraine from a Russian TV station.
And I read contradictory reports in the English-speaking media. Whom do you believe? I didn't inhale. Iraq has weapons of mass destruction. Subprime is AAA. You can keep your current plan. Libya is stable and open for business.
erasure, do you know what is the current reality on the ground? I read that Russia is withdrawing its troops from the border and that Ukraine troops are making progress in retaking territory in Donbass. Yet I also read opinions that Russia will be able to influence events in Ukraine in its own favor for a long time.
It sounds like the Russians have made some kind of deal with the new Ukraine president and that they are sacrificing the separatists, on the one hand, - even an EU mediator said that Ukraine should pay Russia for gas upfront, albeit at a fair market price -, but, on the other hand, the Russians can still send men and materiel across the border to keep up the pressure, though I am not sure.
And I read contradictory reports in the English-speaking media. Whom do you believe? I didn't inhale...What is your sense? Thanks.
All you have written is true. Russia sells gas to Ukraine, carries on traffic with Ukraine and Russian plants have many economic contacts with Ukrainian ones. And some groups in Ukraine and Russia try to get off Kiev's control over East-South of Ukraine at the same time. They want to do it using lie and impudence. This is a big villainy.
My post about the "Bandera Waltz" was an attempt at a joke, since the "Bandera" in the title is actually the name of a Texas town. It is also the Spanish word for "flag".
It's sad that according to most posters on this way-too-long-and-no-longer-interesting thread, you are either a Stalinist or a Banderaist when it comes to what is going on in Ukraine.
Moscow claims that the current Ukrainian government consists of Banderovtsy's dressed in red and black. Banderovtsy's are extreme right wingers who modeled themselves after the Gestapo during WW2.
Yeah there have been a lot of really bizarre claims on this thread. Russia was devastated by Nazi Germany in WW2, so its not surprising dismissing someone as a Nazi or a Fascist still carries a lot of weight with many Russians. I think someone on this thread even claimed the Ukrainians were running concentration camps in eastern Ukraine.
Yeah there have been a lot of really bizarre claims on this thread. Russia was devastated by Nazi Germany in WW2, so its not surprising dismissing someone as a Nazi or a Fascist still carries a lot of weight with many Russians. I think someone on this thread even claimed the Ukrainians were running concentration camps in eastern Ukraine.
Not only Russian. Poles also was battered by Ukrainian nationalists.
And today the Ukrainian Insurgent Army is very popular among Ukrainians. This is very annoying people from the east of Ukraine. I wonder what position will the new president of Ukraine Poroshenko.
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