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Old 11-04-2017, 09:43 AM
 
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Yes, of course, they should be more like America where we fund terrorists al qaeda, the FSA, ISIS, and the great freedom fighters in Libya who destroyed the streets of Tripoli and bombed the hospital and roads.
The funny thing is that you're both right at the same time.
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Old 11-04-2017, 11:14 AM
 
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Yesterday their foreign PM or so claimed that the jews in bulgaria were "saved by the russian army"...it's like the russian false reading of history never ends:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue...Bulgarian_Jews

"The Rescue of Bulgarian Jews was a historical event that consisted of the planned rescue of about 50,000 Jews living on Bulgarian soil in the period 1943-1945. The most notable people behind the rescue were Dimitar Peshev and Exarch Stefan of Bulgaria and Kiril, Metropolitan of Plovdiv, who managed to overcome Bulgaria's pro-Nazi bureaucracy and convince the then-tsar Boris III to stand behind Bulgarian Jewry.[1]"


Wikipedia according to Russian politics:

https://sofiaglobe.com/2017/11/03/ru...-to-holocaust/
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Old 11-04-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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In the fall of 1943 the Russians were about halfway through the Ukraine. The battles of the Dnepr were happening and its safe to say Romania, Bulgaria were subconsciously hearing a rumble coming from the north east. It was quite evident in 1943 that Germanys plan to conquer Russia was not going to happen.

There was writing on the wall so to say.

I have no doubt some people read that writing and took certain steps to make themselves look better maybe? Russia influenced those decisions.
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Old 11-04-2017, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Interesting photo. "Lenin", first nuclear icebreaker (now it is museum).


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Old 11-05-2017, 08:15 AM
 
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In the fall of 1943 the Russians were about halfway through the Ukraine. The battles of the Dnepr were happening and its safe to say Romania, Bulgaria were subconsciously hearing a rumble coming from the north east. It was quite evident in 1943 that Germanys plan to conquer Russia was not going to happen.

There was writing on the wall so to say.

I have no doubt some people read that writing and took certain steps to make themselves look better maybe? Russia influenced those decisions.
So...you're saying Bulgaria (whose 100% twin: Romania also saved all its jews...) decided to save its jews because it was obvious Russia is comming? Also in the news: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland_does_not_exist
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Old 11-06-2017, 02:41 PM
 
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Russians have quite a recent track record of defending mass murdering heads of state.


https://youtu.be/Hwxa4dqAFTs
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Old 11-06-2017, 06:00 PM
DKM
 
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Yes, of course, they should be more like America where we fund terrorists al qaeda, the FSA, ISIS, and the great freedom fighters in Libya who destroyed the streets of Tripoli and bombed the hospital and roads.
America is funding the SDF, which conveniently gets ignored by Russian press for liberating Raqqa from ISIS. What Russia does is send its guys to get killed in the desert.

Mr. Frolov, you should post the location of such things as that Lenin icebreaker. That's a must see for any serious tourist.
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Old 11-06-2017, 06:11 PM
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In the fall of 1943 the Russians were about halfway through the Ukraine. The battles of the Dnepr were happening and its safe to say Romania, Bulgaria were subconsciously hearing a rumble coming from the north east. It was quite evident in 1943 that Germanys plan to conquer Russia was not going to happen.

There was writing on the wall so to say.
More like it was the American's that autumn who were taking over Italy right next door and setting up bombing runs into Bulgaria and Romania that got their attention. Actually this was preceded by the Germans halting their offensive in Russia (which had retaken Kharkov and other areas) because the Americans had taken Sicily with far better precision and decisiveness than their Russian adversaries could even retake Russian territory. Hitler still thought he could grind out a victory over Russia due to the body count differential but with the Americans he was losing the kill/killed ratio badly.

In any case the action to save the Bulgarian Jews started in March of 1943, hardly a time when the Russians appeared to be on their way anytime soon.
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Old 11-07-2017, 08:45 AM
 
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Oh and the decimation of the Romanian and Italian divisions at hte opening of operation Uranus and Saturn in the the winter of 1942 '43 had nothing to do with it.

Funny how that action to save the Bulgarian Jews began about the time the truth about Stalingrad became apparent.
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Old 11-07-2017, 09:13 AM
 
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^ Funny how far russian politics, also known as "russian bull****" reaches these days. The big question is: how far are they gonna reach? I read somewhere their next presidential candidates are gay, black and porn acctress. Time will tell .
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