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Old 10-23-2015, 08:46 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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The word Hispanic, Hispanico, has been used since there was no America to include the ancient Hispania.
The word is used for cultured Americans with the same meaning it has in Spain, The Hispanic Society (also including Portugal).

Now, that recently "Hispanic" is used by illiterate politicians in the US for political reasons, who the hell cares? They also use that word "Anglo", which is the most ridiculous and ignorant thing there is....and other words that are just equally absurd.

That would be like saying that Renanians or Swabians were not Germanics because there were 10 million people in the US that called themselves Renanians&Swabians and were Polish Kosovars in origin. Who cares?
You can repeat your nonsense as often as you wish, that won't make it any more true...
Portugal is Latin, but not Hispanic, period.
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:51 AM
 
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Portugal is Latin and Hispanic, and also Iberian and European.
In the U.S, I don't know and I don't care.
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:51 AM
 
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Purely anecdotal, I know, but I just got back from several weeks in Portugal. There were many Spanish tourists there, particularly in Porto. I made a point to ask a number of Portuguese what they thought of Spain or the Spanish and not one at all ever made negative comments about the Spanish. Some of them were quite complimentary.
You are a tourist in Portugal, locals will certainly not tell you anything negative about another country. Now, what they think is a different matter. In their minds the Portuguese have probably wondered why on earth a tourist asks them about Spain. I don't think that is a recommendable thing to do. But again, they won't tell you what they think of such odd questions.
They just take the tourist money and make fun of foreigners when they are among themselves.
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:52 AM
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Purely anecdotal, I know, but I just got back from several weeks in Portugal. There were many Spanish tourists there, particularly in Porto. I made a point to ask a number of Portuguese what they thought of Spain or the Spanish and not one at all ever made negative comments about the Spanish. Some of them were quite complimentary.

If you have any picts from that trip that you wouldn't mind sharing on the forum I would like to see them.
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:53 AM
 
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Portugal is Latin and Hispanic, and also Iberian and European.
In the U.S, I don't know and I don't care.
All three, yes, except Hispanic. And I am not even speaking about the US. I have never even heard anyone in Europe or elsewhere use the word Hispanic because it doesn't make sense.
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:58 AM
 
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All three, yes, except Hispanic. And I am not even speaking about the US. I have never even heard anyone in Europe or elsewhere use the word Hispanic because it doesn't make sense.
hispánico, ca
Del lat. Hispanícus.
adj. Perteneciente o relativo a la antigua Hispania o a los pueblos que formaron parte de ella.


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Old 10-23-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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Hispania Gothorum during Leovigildo





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Old 10-23-2015, 09:07 AM
 
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Exactly, it only refers to distant history, while today Hispanic only refers to things that have to do with Spain/Spanish.
You really should understand that difference between history and modern times.

By the way, that Hispanic Society that you keep referring to, is the Hispanic Society of America. Just saying because you also indicated that you don't care what Americans think. But it is important because outside of History classes Americans are the only ones that keep using that term in the first place.
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:09 AM
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hispánico, ca
Del lat. Hispanícus.
adj. Perteneciente o relativo a la antigua Hispania o a los pueblos que formaron parte de ella.


Make up your mind you keep moving the goal from 500 to 1000 to 2000 years ago. Like Neuling already explained to you context is everything applying black and white thinking clouds the issue.
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:17 AM
 
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Exactly, it only refers to distant history, while today Hispanic only refers to things that have to do with Spain/Spanish.
You really should understand that difference between history and modern times.

By the way, that Hispanic Society that you keep referring to, is the Hispanic Society of America. Just saying because you also indicated that you don't care what Americans think. But it is important because outside of History classes Americans are the only ones that keep using that term in the first place.


I care to what cultured people say. It's not a "historic" term, but one that became popular mainly during the 19th century and highly used. No, the term is used here, not like 50 years because, as I said, the term has a certain "fascist" smell....Franco used to use the term a lot, and also Falange.

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