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Yes, which makes the whole thing even worse. That sounds like a complete attempt to re-engineer breathing, social, and lifestyle habits upon humanity. No thank you.
I think the biggest issue is that there is no projected end date. But the again, when a segment of the population refuses to comply, that only prolongs the misery.
17th October 2020
Covid-19 Death Distortion In Florida: Over 40% of State’s “Covid-19 Deaths” May Not Merit That Classification
"The Florida House investigators stressed that “nearly 60% [8,058/13.920] of the [COVID-19] records classified by the Department of Health,” had “errors,” or were “recorded in a manner inconsistent with state and national guidance.” They also provided evidence, as noted earlier, that ~10% [1,256] of these alleged Covid-19 deaths were misclassified.
I maintain this latter ~10% estimate is far too conservative, and moreover, reflects compliance with the CDC’s April, 2020 Covid-19 death certificate coding guidelines which destroyed the logical firewall between Part 1 “specific cause” of, and Part 2 “contribution(s)” to, individual deaths. Accordingly, to these 1,256 records where Covid-19 is not even listed as the final cause of death, one could add the 175 listing non-Covid-19 immediate and underlying causes, 1,345 occurring in hospice care, and the [3,697-246=] 3451 that somehow classified Covid-19, alone, as both the immediate and underlying cause of death despite acknowledging contributing co-morbidities, or “conditions”. This aggregate mortality total indicates, plausibly, that up to 45% (6,227/13,920) of Florida’s death certificate recorded “Covid-19 deaths” may not merit that classification."
How about a reliable source? That is an op-ed on an opinion conspiracy website that has, as its focus, anti-Muslim bias. I mean the guy is obsessed, and probably is convinced that everything you quoted is part of an "Islamist" conspiracy to murder Americans or something.
Seriously read some of the crap he writes on his site. It's truly mindboggling.
Why aren't surgeons and nurses dropping like flies on the surgery floor?
Before the "covid", nurses and doctors only wore masks when they needed to, ie, when performing surgeries or procedures that required sterile fields, when treating patients with communicable diseases ( under "universal precautions, depending on the patient's condition, this would be masks, goggles, and/or disposable gowns). They didn't wear them for the entirety of their working hours, day after day after day.....
I would imagine that there are any number of unvoiced complaints from those who are required to wear masks tor such long periods of time. You won't hear about these, or possible adverse effects of long time mask usage, at least not from the sources advocating long term lockdowns, mask wearing, and "social distancing".
How about a reliable source? That is an op-ed on an opinion conspiracy website that has, as its focus, anti-Muslim bias. I mean the guy is obsessed, and probably is convinced that everything you quoted is part of an "Islamist" conspiracy to murder Americans or something.
Seriously read some of the crap he writes on his site. It's truly mindboggling.
.he links to both Florida House of Representative reports...which are both word for word what he's saying
Death rates in Florida likely are understated (e.g., deaths at home with no positive test). Most importantly, COVID-19 infections result in many health deficiencies, even among some initially asymptomatic individuals who have tested positive. From the Journal of the American Medical Association:
<<Although the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is novel, many clinicians would consider coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) an internal medicine disease, with striking similarities to the early days of the HIV/AIDS pandemic nearly 40 years ago. Evaluating the protean manifestations of COVID-19 and determining the optimal approach to treating patients are basic elements of internal medicine. Hypoxia that can progress to acute respiratory distress syndrome, renal failure, myocarditis, and thrombosis are conditions that internists have always treated.>>
Politicians are inaccurate when they say that COVID-19 is going away. Certainly, treatments and vaccines will improve care and reduce the incidence of the virus. That's why public health measures such as testing, contact tracing, and quarantining, and mask-wearing and social distancing are necessary to control the virus pending the widespread availability of vaccines and better treatments, such as monoclonal antibody cocktails.
<<Despite the best efforts of physicians and public health experts, morbidity and mortality from COVID-19 have continued to increase, and it is likely that the reported rates of infection and the numbers of deaths underestimate the actual increased death toll associated with the pandemic in many states.4 Similarly, in a seroprevalence data analysis of SARS-CoV-2 infection, including 10 regions across the US with serum samples from 16 025 persons, Havers et al5 estimated that the estimated total number of infections (extrapolated from the measured proportion of individuals with positive SARS-CoV-2 serological samples) was between 6- and 24-fold higher than the number of confirmed COVID-19 cases reported in each location prior to the study. This study highlights the importance of expanding active surveillance strategies, primarily with polymerase chain reaction testing, to identify asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic persons infected with SARS-CoV-2 before they are able to infect others.>>
<<Young adults age 18 to 34 years hospitalized with COVID-19 experienced substantial rates of adverse outcomes: 21% required intensive care, 10% required mechanical ventilation, and 2.7% died.>>
Unfortunately, and inexplicably, the CDC apparently has not conducted studies to determine what post-infection health deficiences are associated with COVID-19.
COVID-19 likely is taken more seriously in New England given the experience of 27-year-old Boston Red Sox ace pitcher Eduardo Rodriguez. It remains uncertain if he'll ever completely recover from his COVID-19 infection.
<<Rodriguez was ruled out for the season in August after being diagnosed with myocarditis, which is an inflammation of the heart muscle. It’s a condition Rodriguez did not have before contracting COVID-19. Since then, he’s been limited physically while doctors evaluated his condition.>>
The Big Ten postponed its football season partially over concern about myocarditis in players who test positive for COVID-19. Note that although players feel fine, their physical condition can be impacted by the disease.
<<“You could have a very high-level athlete who’s got a very superior VO2 max and cardiac output who gets infected with COVID and can drop his or her VO2 max and cardiac output just by 10 percent, and that could <FZ,1,0,35>make them go from elite status to average status,” Sebastianelli said. “What we have seen when people have been studied with cardiac MRI scans — symptomatic and asymptomatic COVID infections — is a level of inflammation in cardiac muscle that just is alarming.”>>
<< In a recent study published in JAMA Cardiology, 15% of the NCAA athletes showed signs of myocarditis after recovering from COVID-19. Indeed, even as evidence of the long-term complications that Covid-19 may inflict upon its victims grows, college football administrators have stood firm in their conviction that the virus presents a low risk to young athletes.
Such surety, however, is not well-founded. “This is a new virus, and we are only beginning to understand the harms it can cause,” Gavin Yamey, Director of the Center for Policy Impact in Global Health at the Duke Global Health Institute, told us. “Studies suggest that about 10% of people of any age who are infected can develop long-term, disabling symptoms that can last many months or more. This long-term illness, called ‘long-haul’ COVID, can cause symptoms like tiredness, shortness of breath, chest tightness and pain, headaches, muscle pain, and heart palpitations.” Yamey says the virus can damage the brain, heart, pancreas, skin, thyroid, gut, kidneys, and musculoskeletal system.>>
The Big Ten tests its athletes for COVID-19 daily. Any positive test, even if the athlete is asymptomatic, requires a cardiac evaluation. How many of the other university athletic conferences require cardiac assessments of all athletes who test positive? How many persons in the general public who test positive, even when asymptomatic, receive cardiac evaluations, which in the Big Ten include an expensive cardiac MRI?
<<All COVID-19 positive student-athletes will have to undergo comprehensive cardiac testing to include labs and biomarkers, ECG, Echocardiogram and a Cardiac MRI. Following cardiac evaluation, student-athletes must receive clearance from a cardiologist designated by the university for the primary purpose of cardiac clearance for COVID-19 positive student-athletes. The earliest a student-athlete can return to game competition is 21 days following a COVID-19 positive diagnosis.>>
Focusing on just death rates, regardless of their accuracy, and treating COVID-19 as an illness similar to the flu for younger, "immune" Americans is a farce IMO.
The Big Ten tests its athletes for COVID-19 daily. Any positive test, even if the athlete is asymptomatic, requires a cardiac evaluation. How many of the other university athletic conferences require cardiac assessments of all athletes who test positive? How many persons in the general public who test positive, even when asymptomatic, receive cardiac evaluations, which in the Big Ten include an expensive cardiac MRI?
<<All COVID-19 positive student-athletes will have to undergo comprehensive cardiac testing to include labs and biomarkers, ECG, Echocardiogram and a Cardiac MRI. Following cardiac evaluation, student-athletes must receive clearance from a cardiologist designated by the university for the primary purpose of cardiac clearance for COVID-19 positive student-athletes. The earliest a student-athlete can return to game competition is 21 days following a COVID-19 positive diagnosis.>>
Focusing on just death rates, regardless of their accuracy, and treating COVID-19 as an illness similar to the flu for younger, "immune" Americans is a farce IMO.
So change the fundamental aspects of society over all of this? Seems like those who advocate this have some other agenda in mind.
So change the fundamental aspects of society over all of this? Seems like those who advocate this have some other agenda in mind.
There are some things it would be good to discuss like how culturally we place such a huge virtue on 'perfect attendance' that in normal times we have the unnecessary spread of disease all over the place. I'd like for there to be sick leave accrual for all fast food employees because I prefer my McNuggets without a side of Hepatitis A please. (Sample article below)
“Wearing a mask is not a political statement. It’s a scientific imperative. It’s a point of patriotic pride..."
So it's not political, it's "scientific" (even though the "science" shows it has virtually no effect), but it's a point of patriotism (i.e. political).
(a) Biden is an idiot and the most inconsistent flip-flopper on earth, (b) he's a tool of the left who use masks to make you comply to their will and de-humanize you and (c) he even wants to make it mandatory for you to wear them on federal highways...and THAT, my friends, is the first step to having "papers" to cross state lines, being arrested for "denialism" and all the other totalitarian BS coming soon to a town near you.
Trump 2020. The alternative will make the old Soviet Union look like a 4th of July picnic.
“Wearing a mask is not a political statement. It’s a scientific imperative. It’s a point of patriotic pride..."
So it's not political, it's "scientific" (even though the "science" shows it has virtually no effect), but it's a point of patriotism (i.e. political).
(a) Biden is an idiot and the most inconsistent flip-flopper on earth, (b) he's a tool of the left who use masks to make you comply to their will and de-humanize you and (c) he even wants to make it mandatory for you to wear them on federal highways...and THAT, my friends, is the first step to having "papers" to cross state lines, being arrested for "denialism" and all the other totalitarian BS coming soon to a town near you.
Trump 2020. The alternative will make the old Soviet Union look like a 4th of July picnic.
Meanwhile, the Bernie Bros are calling the November choice a Republican primary....
Y'all need to stop with the socialist allegations. That guy didn't win the primary...twice.
So change the fundamental aspects of society over all of this? Seems like those who advocate this have some other agenda in mind.
If we could revisit March 2020 again, this is some of maybe should have happened.
-Keep everything open except for maybe bars and large events. The things that are open would need to enforce social distancing mandates to the best of their ability. Discourage large personal gatherings. The thing that was unfair in the business sense was that a place like JCP or local boutique equivalents in some smaller category of merchandise had to close, but you could go to Walmart or Target and buy clothes, bed sheets, kitchen gadgets, etc. while picking up your toiletries and food. Either Delaware or Vermont saw the inconsistency in that and barred the big boxes from selling "non essential" items.
-Put a definitive time limit on mandates. I know that is difficult as the experts were learning about the virus as they went, but we all thought that this would be a 2-4 week ordeal and then we'd be back to normal. Not 7-8 months so far. But then again, people from the beginning thought it was a hoax to hurt Trump, so we were doomed from the beginning with compliance.
-Schools? I'm not sure about this one. Today's data suggest that schools aren't spreaders, but then schools can actually enforce things that Walmart and Target can't. With half of many district students' families choosing to stay at home, that has likely helped with distancing. Additionally, there has never been a bigger stigma against sending kids to school or daycare sick (or even adults to work) as there is now because of COVID , even for the common cold. The "see, I told you that schools were fine" people won't mention that.
-Authorities and opinion givers need to provide a balanced set of solutions. I feel like it's government vs. personal preventative health instead of there being a balance of both. Yes, we need government for effective widespread testing. We need our leaders telling us to follow the mask, distance and hygiene recommendations. But we also need a stronger message of "a lot of these preexisting conditions are preventable so get ready now so the next virus doesn't get you." So many times, we act like it's an either/or when the solution is an "and" solution.
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