[WRnative]

The Univ. of Washington's acclaimed COVID-19 projections, once used by the Trump adminitration, say 100,000 lives could be saved if 95 percent of Americans wore masks, according to NBC News. A significant percentage of these deaths likely will be in Florida.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news...on-94623301979

Actually, the projection of lives saved by universal (100 percent) mask wearing is 130,000 lives.

<<Specifically, the paper projected that there could be some half a million Covid-19-related deaths in the U.S. by the end of February, and that some 130,000 of those tragedies might be forestalled with universal mask use. But experts warn that the figures from any of the model’s hypothetical scenarios are less useful than the comparison between the different possibilities. By putting those projections side by side, you can start to see how much of an effect something like mask-wearing might have on a population level, if you take the authors’ estimation that face coverings can reduce an individual’s risk of infection by about 40%.>>

https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/23/...ng-study-says/

Persons seeking to avoid COVID-19 infection prior to the widespread introduction of COVID-19 vaccines, antibody cocktails, and perhaps other anti-viral drugs, should just avoid locations where persons aren't wearing masks.

Figure 1 here shows the relative weakness of social distancing mandates in Florida compared to other states. Figure 2 (enlarge) shows how Florida will have one of the most severe spikes in COVID-19 deaths in the four months ahead, according to the UWA projections.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-1132-9#Fig3

The Univ. of Washington's IHME currently projects 29,000 COVID-19 deaths in Florida by Feb. 1, not Feb. 28.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/unite...aths&tab=trend

Florida soon will join the "top ten" list of most per capita COVID-19 deaths among U.S. states, and may reach top 5 status by the end of February.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...s-us-by-state/

Several months ago, Floria was faring much better relative to other states.

[BartramBuck]

They also used projections for show MILLIONS would now be dead.

But through all their best efforts to inflate the numbers, we are at 230,000 who have died WITH Covid

And about 2 people wo have died BECAUSE of Covid.

This is a referendum on how FAT this country is.

Obesity, diabetes, cancer all pretty much from our HORRENDOUS western diet is why we are dying. Covid is just “another “ thing people are dying WITH because of our inability to eat whole, nutritional foods.

Once they put out the food pyramid and began the greatest experiment ever done on human beings, we were doomed to lower life expectancy.

No politician will fair any better. Not DeSantis, not trump, not Biden, no one, because this is just another thing we will now die from because we can’t push a plate away.

[Demolitionman2]

About a month ago it was on the local news and in the local newspaper here in central Florida about a man in the hospital dying from, I believe it was, cancer and several strokes. His family questioned the hospital staff and asked if he had Covid 19. The response was "no",he had been tested and he would be in isolation if he was positive. After he died the death certificate read that he died from Covid 19. The family went through the roof. The hsopital probably got its $30,000 for his Covid 19 death and there was yet another statistic added nationwide to the Covid 19 death toll. This begs the question hwo many others were negative across the country and were listed as Covid 19 deaths AND how many others were positive for Covid 19 but died from another cause and were listed as Covid 19 deaths. All for money and statistics. The world may never know.....

https://www.wcjb.com/2020/09/23/mans...alth-responds/

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by BartramBuck

They also used projections for show MILLIONS would now be dead.

But through all their best efforts to inflate the numbers, we are at 230,000 who have died WITH Covid

And about 2 people wo have died BECAUSE of Covid.

The IHME Hybrid model has been very accurate.

https://www.healthdata.org/sites/def...ate_062520.pdf

<< The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation COVID19 model is probably the most popular and most accurate empirical model for COVID19 (Institute for Health Metrics Evaluation (IHME), 2020). >>

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...20.565589/full

Your "millions" claim likely reflects a UK projection if no mitigation procedures were implemented. Hard to tell as you don't substantiate any of your outlandish and false claims.

The rest of your post is similarly inaccurate and ridiculousness.

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by BartramBuck

They also used projections for show MILLIONS would now be dead.

But through all their best efforts to inflate the numbers, we are at 230,000 who have died WITH Covid

And about 2 people wo have died BECAUSE of Covid.

This is a referendum on how FAT this country is.

Obesity, diabetes, cancer all pretty much from our HORRENDOUS western diet is why we are dying. Covid is just “another “ thing people are dying WITH because of our inability to eat whole, nutritional foods.

Once they put out the food pyramid and began the greatest experiment ever done on human beings, we were doomed to lower life expectancy.

No politician will fair any better. Not DeSantis, not trump, not Biden, no one, because this is just another thing we will now die from because we can’t push a plate away.

So the millions of positive cases are an illusion as well??? What about the hospitalizations, ICU admissions, and intubations?

[BartramBuck]

Originally Posted by WRnative

So the millions of positive cases are an illusion as well??? What about the hospitalizations, ICU admissions, and intubations?

They absolutely claimed millions would DIE from this. Not just get it, DIE.

[BartramBuck]

Originally Posted by WRnative

The IHME Hybrid model has been very accurate.

https://www.healthdata.org/sites/def...ate_062520.pdf

<< The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation COVID19 model is probably the most popular and most accurate empirical model for COVID19 (Institute for Health Metrics Evaluation (IHME), 2020). >>

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...20.565589/full

Your "millions" claim likely reflects a UK projection if no mitigation procedures were implemented. Hard to tell as you don't substantiate any of your outlandish and false claims.

The rest of your post is similarly inaccurate and ridiculousness.

The NIH model was absolutely used to make the HYSTERICAL claims about the virus that prompted lockdowns.

Lockdowns that clearly don’t work. They simply delay the inevitable.

And this virus absolutely kills the obese, the diabetics, and the immunocompromised that are often that way because of an awful diet.

This country was not disgustingly obese until the food pyramid.

The government failed us then, and government will NEVER be the answer. EVER.

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by BartramBuck

They absolutely claimed millions would DIE from this. Not just get it, DIE.

You're wrong. I suspect you believe President Trump's absurd lie that he saved 2 million American lives, and have no clue about the source of his claim, even if Trump had anything to do with the actions by individual states and local governments that actually helped mitigate the U.S. epidemic.

<< On March 16, a 20-page report from Neil Ferguson's team at Imperial College London quickly gathered enormous attention by producing enormous death estimates....

The New York Times quickly ran the hot news about this new COVID-19 estimate: "American officials said the report, which projected up to 2.2 million deaths in the United States from such a spread, also influenced the White House to strengthen its measures to isolate members of the public."

A month later that 2.2 million estimate was still being used (without revealing the source) by President Trump and Doctors Fauci and Birx to imply that up to two million lives had been saved by state lockdowns and business closings and/or by federal travel bans.>>

https://www.cato.org/blog/how-one-mo...eaths-covid-19

Later in the article, the University of Washington's IMHE projections are discussed:

<<Because a newer and better [University of Washington] IHME model ends with August 4, its low estimate of COVID-19 deaths (under 61,000 as of April 15) misses five months of 2020 and is therefore surely too optimistic for the whole year. Yet the IHME estimates will nonetheless prove enormously closer to reality than the archaic overstuffed Imperial College prediction of 2.2 million deaths.>>

Imperial College London has nothing to do with the University of Washington's IMHE.

The IHME has tended to underestimate COVID-19 deaths, likely never imaginging that the Trump administration and its Republican enablers would create an anti-mask, anti-social distancing subculture.

Asserting unsubstantiated falsities is just another form of disgusting "Big Lie" propaganda.

[BNBR]

Originally Posted by WRnative

You're wrong. I suspect you believe President Trump's absurd lie that he saved 2 million American lives, and have no clue about the source of his claim, even if Trump had anything to do with the actions by individual states and local governments that actually helped mitigate the U.S. epidemic.

<< On March 16, a 20-page report from Neil Ferguson's team at Imperial College London quickly gathered enormous attention by producing enormous death estimates....

The New York Times quickly ran the hot news about this new COVID-19 estimate: "American officials said the report, which projected up to 2.2 million deaths in the United States from such a spread, also influenced the White House to strengthen its measures to isolate members of the public."

A month later that 2.2 million estimate was still being used (without revealing the source) by President Trump and Doctors Fauci and Birx to imply that up to two million lives had been saved by state lockdowns and business closings and/or by federal travel bans.>>

https://www.cato.org/blog/how-one-mo...eaths-covid-19

Later in the article, the University of Washington's IMHE projections are discussed:

<<Because a newer and better [University of Washington] IHME model ends with August 4, its low estimate of COVID-19 deaths (under 61,000 as of April 15) misses five months of 2020 and is therefore surely too optimistic for the whole year. Yet the IHME estimates will nonetheless prove enormously closer to reality than the archaic overstuffed Imperial College prediction of 2.2 million deaths.>>

Imperial College London has nothing to do with the University of Washington's IMHE.

The IHME has tended to underestimate COVID-19 deaths, likely never imaginging that the Trump administration and its Republican enablers would create an anti-mask, anti-social distancing subculture.

Asserting unsubstantiated falsities is just another form of disgusting "Big Lie" propaganda.

Did you actually read the CATO story you posted? The 2.2M is not a lie, at all. Lol. The story even admits it's not a lie. It seems YOU don't have a clue about the source of the claim. You are so biased that you are reading it and STILL can't process it. The model simulated if people did nothing. Which is exactly the point. So you and the media call it a lie because, like, people will do something so the number would never be that high. Right. That's the point. We DID something.... hmmm.....

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by BNBR

Did you actually read the CATO story you posted? The 2.2M is not a lie, at all. Lol. The story even admits it's not a lie. It seems YOU don't have a clue about the source of the claim. You are so biased that you are reading it and STILL can't process it. The model simulated if people did nothing. Which is exactly the point. So you and the media call it a lie because, like, people will do something so the number would never be that high. Right. That's the point. We DID something.... hmmm.....

Persons who actually care about your delusional argument can read posts 191 and 192. You implied, cleverly, that the University of Washington's IHME made the 2.2 million COVID-19 U.S. death projection, AFTER I discussed current IHME projections in depth. Your unsuccessful effort was to discredit the IHME projections, by confusing the IHME with Trump "Big Lies." You never mentioned the Imperial College London, which did make that 2.2 million projection. And that projection was irrelevant to IHME, which had nothing to do with the Imperial College London projection. My discussion, which you attempted to refute, was always about the IHME.

And, of course, I read the CATO story. I even quoted the 2.2 million projection in post 198, to demonstrate it came from the Imperial College London.

I don't have time for this patent craziness.