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Old 06-11-2010, 09:01 PM
 
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I live in the safe part of the state, however Detroit is a huge percentage of our population, and its always dragging our whole state down. Detroit is like an anchor wrapped around Michigans neck.
Not hardly. Detroit is less than 10% of MI's population.
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Old 06-11-2010, 09:14 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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New Mexico?


I wonder why...
Because of the Injuns. They get drunk easily and have problems. Hence the phrase "the natives are getting restless"...
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Old 06-11-2010, 09:16 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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And what about Flint?

This list is a joke if it places Delaware on there (presumably) for Wilmington and Tennessee (what in the world...)? - I guess because of parts of Memphis, but yet Michigan escapes unscathed?
Tennessee has bad crime everywhere - Knoxville, Chattanooga, Nashville (one of the worst), and many little po-dunk cities/ghettos in the middle of nowhere that are depressed and have high crime. Their crime problem is not limited to their cities.
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Old 06-11-2010, 09:19 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Not hardly. Detroit is less than 10% of MI's population.
The CITY of Detroit is less than 1/10th the States population; the METRO area of Detroit (Lapeer, Livingston, Macomb, Oakland, St. Clair, & Wayne counties) account for 44% of the total population of the State of Michigan.
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Old 06-11-2010, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland area
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The CITY of Detroit is less than 1/10th the States population; the METRO area of Detroit (Lapeer, Livingston, Macomb, Oakland, St. Clair, & Wayne counties) account for 44% of the total population of the State of Michigan.
I think that's the point. Detroit may be crime ridden, but it doesn't hold a large share of Michigan's population. The suburbs on the other hand are generally less crime ridden than the city itself. They also make up a larger portion of Michigan's population. Many are at or below the national crime rate, which lessens the effect of Detroit on Michigan's overall crime rate.

This is what also keeps New Jersey off the list of most crime ridden states (the "dangerous" areas are vastly outnumbered by the safer areas)
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Old 06-11-2010, 09:23 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I find it strange that all those states except Maryland and Delaware are either in the southeast or in the west. Where is New Jersey? New York? I find it hard to believe that Tennessee is more dangerous than the land of the Sapranos. People use statistics, twist them in order to bash the south. I wonder if that is the case here.
People who watch TV a lot and believe what they watch as being "real" would tend to think that NJ is "the land of the Sopranos" while the South is full of genteel folks, greeting all visitors with ice cold sweet tea or lemonade on the porch of their beautiful home on a large piece of land.

People who travel and get to see and know places in real life know that TV is playing up stereotypes to get viewers, and that NJ is not quite "the land of the Sopranos" as shown on TV but actually is one of the wealthiest and most educated populations with the most expensive homes in the nation and that the south isn't all Mayberry and Sweet Tea but actually some of the absolute poorest populations in the nation and lots of trailer parks and ghetto-like small towns with tons of ignorant baby-mama/baby-daddy issues amongst their teens and obese women with glasses who like to wear and have lots of things with bright floral prints and smoke generic cigs that they buy cartons at a time at one of the many discount tobacco shops all over the south.

You should try to stop watching so much TV and believing the TV shows and get out and see for yourself what the real world is like; then you'd easily believe that Tennessee has much worse crime than NJ.
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Old 06-11-2010, 09:25 PM
 
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The CITY of Detroit is less than 1/10th the States population; the METRO area of Detroit (Lapeer, Livingston, Macomb, Oakland, St. Clair, & Wayne counties) account for 44% of the total population of the State of Michigan.
But he was talking about the city, I assume. The Detroit burbs aren't exactly known as crime-ridden are they?
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Old 06-11-2010, 09:31 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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But he was talking about the city, I assume. The Detroit burbs aren't exactly known as crime-ridden are they?
Not most of them, some are VERY nice. When it comes to instate, "Detroit" generally refers to the entire Detroit area, not just the city itself.
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:16 PM
 
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Camden was rated higher for crime in 2009 than Detroit. Detroit.

The problem with NJ's cities is that people still visit Memphis and Nashville. Crime is higher in Memphis than in Nashville and in fact, tourism increases. Why? Because these cities still have attractions, friendly people, and businesses that make it all worthwhile. NJ doesn't have one city that isn't a piece of decaying slime with no redeeming value.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel much safer when in beautiful Tennessee than in the urban slums of "Jersey" any day.
Personally I'd rather live in beautiful rural Jersey over Tennessee any day. Also, Ocean City is one city that is not a "decaying slime with no redeeming value" I could go on and list others if you like.

Anyway, this is about states (which NJ is among the safest) not cities (which NJ has both some of the safest (Brick, NJ safest city in the U.S.) and most dangerous(Camden))
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Old 06-12-2010, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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Not most of them, some are VERY nice. When it comes to instate, "Detroit" generally refers to the entire Detroit area, not just the city itself.
I understand what you mean, but in the context of our conversation, we were clearly talking about the city and not the suburbs.
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