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Old 01-02-2012, 06:51 PM
 
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What?? Mayo's not even in the metro, it's 75 miles south, in Rochester. I think you must be quoting state stats, not metro.
He is. I saw the same stats.

Wish I had looked at that post more closely before I wasted time responding like he had a legit source...
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Old 01-02-2012, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Don't discount Cleveland, which is currently in a mini-Renaissance:

1) Over $6 Billion in investment happening in the city limits
2) Opening soon:
-- Downtown Cleveland Aquarium OPENING in January Greater Cleveland Aquarium
-- Downtown Horseshoe Higbee Casino OPENING in March Horseshoe Casino
3) Metro unemployment 7.1%
4) Downtown population up 88% in the 2010 census Ohio Cities See Downtown Populations Boom « urbanOut


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Old 01-02-2012, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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Yup, the little roll-eyes icon () was your clue.
I'm no emoticon expert, but that's what gave me that indication.
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:38 PM
 
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Agreed.
I would agree that there are Sunbelt cities with Rust Belt characteristics, but they are not in the Rust Belt. The two "belts" are mutually exclusive. I have seen NO definition of the Rust Belt that includes anything south of W. Virginia.
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Old 01-04-2012, 05:04 AM
 
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St louis has come along way as well
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Old 01-04-2012, 05:24 AM
 
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St louis has come along way as well
Agreed. I was there last week. It was bustling. Didn't expect that for an overcast weekday in the middle of winter. People were everywhere, especially in Forest Park, the Hill, Central West End, and the Loop. It was hard to find a parking space anywhere we went. You wouldn't even know that St. Louis has lost population. I think a lot of the people who moved to the suburbs still come into the city to enjoy all that it has to offer.
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Leesburg
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I have seen NO definition of the Rust Belt that includes anything south of W. Virginia.
I have. The economic geography of Appalachia is dominated by Rust Belt cities. I think the "Frost Belt" is the focus of this thread and is the more apt opposite of Sun Belt. Regardless, there is no authoritative definition of the Rust Belt. It's messy just like "Midwest" is.

A number of Rust Belts exist though out the United States. Discussing just Rust Belt cities would be more constructive. Then we could talk about the remarkable turnaround in Greenville, SC. Or, what about Chattanooga as Outside magazine's best place to live?

Chattanooga, Tennessee | Best Place to Live | Best Towns | OutsideOnline.com

The emerging narrative is Rust Belt city as undiscovered gem versus the suburban blight of Sun Belt boomtowns.
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:24 AM
 
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Not sure that I would include St. Louis in the Rust Belt..a little too far south..

I believe that Pittsburgh and Cleveland are staging comebacks..
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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^st. louis has far more in common with the rustbelt than any other region. it's an old industrial city that has experienced much the same dynamics and evolution as its rustbelt counterparts. most sources will group st. louis with cities like pittsburgh, cleveland, detroit and chicago.
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:56 PM
 
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Truth be told since Chicago is THE powerhouse of the Midwest, most Chicagoans have little to no opinions of the remaining Midwest cities.
Good God ...
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