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Old 05-12-2012, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Here's MY opinion of Kentucky divided by Southerness. Of course you could probably have 100 different versions of this map if you asked 99 other people
That's actually 100% dead on what my take is, although I'd make sure Louisville is below the buffer zone.
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:36 AM
 
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I agree. I think that the dividing line is Washington, DC in the east, as I consider VA southern and MD northern.

I define the north's boundaries by taking the entire eastern seaboard above Washington DC, basically anything east of Cleveland and north of Central WV.

The south's boundaries include every state in the Confederacy except Texas - there the South only covers everything east of the Houston and DFW metros.

All the rest of the country is another region or doesn't really care.
No, it doesn't. The area you refer to is more like the southEAST than are those points west. Agreed. But even west Texas (with the exception of the trans-pecos) is essentially Southern, not interior SW or West. This is evident by the original settlement, the speech and religion patterns, and even the names of the counties (many named after Confederate figures...along with monuments to the same on courthouse lawns). The notion that the South stops at I-35 is an insupportable myth.

If anything, the "line" simply generally seperates the eastern from the western South (which continues until at least the Texas/New Mexico border).
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Louisville, Colorado:

The Wild West. The 40th parallel was the dividing line between the Nebraska and Kansas territories before the Colorado territory was organized. Nebraska was considered north, Kansas south. I live a mile or so south of the 40th parallel.

Note: Kansas did enter the union as a free state in 1861.
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Old 05-13-2012, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Louisville, Colorado:

The Wild West. The 40th parallel was the dividing line between the Nebraska and Kansas territories before the Colorado territory was organized. Nebraska was considered north, Kansas south. I live a mile or so south of the 40th parallel.

Note: Kansas did enter the union as a free state in 1861.
Geographic center of the contiguous United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-13-2012, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I think it should be the southern border of PA and NJ. And even the southern parts of those states start to feel a little southern, to me, being from CT.
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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I live in Northern New Jersey (north)
Grew up in Southern Virginia (south)

I find the conversation about Charleston, WV interesting. I've only been once (for about 3 days), but I was picking up more of a southern vibe than anything else. Maybe with more time and/or different experiences I'd pick up something else too.
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:56 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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U. S. Census had done the work for you.

File:Us south census.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi..._Divisions.PNG
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:04 PM
 
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^ nah, you cant trust the census for everything. Maryland & Delaware aren't in the South, and most people in those states dont consider themselves Southerners. Northern Virginia isn't Southern either. Also, the extreme Southern portions of MO & IL are part of the South. You cant really define the region based on state lines alone.
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:16 PM
 
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Maybe, but the "north/south" divide is more political, and fairly irrelevant out here.
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Virginia isn't deep south southern, but it's still the south. Maryland I agree is not southern.
In 1969, when I was still in college, my parents moved to Frederick, Maryland, barely across the border from Pennsylvania, from Bloomsburg, PA in the northern part of the state. We thought the natives sounded very southern. After a while, we didn't even notice the accent. But yeah, Maryland at least leans south.

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I've lived in Delaware, and agree that northern Del., the Wilmington area, is not southern. Southern Delaware is a different, more agriultural culture, but not exactly southern, either.

Southern Ill. is still the "Land of Lincoln".
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