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View Poll Results: What Major city has the Cleanest downtown you were impressed by on a visit?
Atlanta 4 3.88%
Chicago 52 50.49%
Boston 17 16.50%
Cleveland 1 0.97%
Denver 7 6.80%
Houston 3 2.91%
LA 0 0%
Miami 2 1.94%
Seattle 13 12.62%
SF 4 3.88%
Voters: 103. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-02-2016, 11:49 PM
 
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Cleveland's CSA is substantially larger. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_statistical_area
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Old 05-03-2016, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities (StP)
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Downtown Chicago is clean because they take all of their trash and spread it along the side of the freeway system leading into downtown.
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Old 05-03-2016, 08:47 AM
 
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Cleveland's CSA is substantially larger. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_statistical_area
Major cities in my opinion are the central business districts of our Nation's top 20 MSAs (not CSAs). If Cleveland belongs in this thread, then I can think of about 10 others (ie KC, Baltimore, Charlotte, Tampa, Orlando, Cincinnati, Columbus, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, Nashville). Austin, San Antonio, Portland and San Diego makes 14.
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Old 05-03-2016, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Major cities in my opinion are the central business districts of our Nation's top 20 MSAs (not CSAs). If Cleveland belongs in this thread, then I can think of about 10 others (ie KC, Baltimore, Charlotte, Tampa, Orlando, Cincinnati, Columbus, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, Nashville). Austin, San Antonio, Portland and San Diego makes 14.
SD and Tampa both qualify as top-20 major cities, I think. Baltimore is right there too.
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Old 05-03-2016, 11:30 AM
 
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Major cities in my opinion are the central business districts of our Nation's top 20 MSAs (not CSAs). If Cleveland belongs in this thread, then I can think of about 10 others (ie KC, Baltimore, Charlotte, Tampa, Orlando, Cincinnati, Columbus, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, Nashville). Austin, San Antonio, Portland and San Diego makes 14.
It's running on reputation somewhat, as a city that used to rank higher.

I don't know how I'd rank Cleveland. It wouldn't be purely on it CBD or greater downtown area, but that would be a factor. I'd also look at other core neighborhoods and how big/dense/active they are.

It's not a particularly CBD-focused city in terms of jobs concentration, though it's growing slowly (or quickly by local standards). It doesn't have a Clayton or Bellevue equivalent as a second CBD, but the CSA includes Akron and the whole area includes a high concentration of older towns and town centers.

As for the other cities, I have a hard time thinking of Orlando, Columbus, Indianapolis, and Nashville as being on the same level, but that's changing in at least a couple of those cases as they grow quickly.
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Old 05-03-2016, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Chicago...

Where exactly would downtown Denver be? I must have blinked and missed it...
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Philly
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very true. sometimes I think good weather and beach options dont necessarily help a teams attendance or fan base. tampa, miami, san diego etc. I notice that teams with hardcore and loyal fan bases tend to be in places where the weather isnt always great . chicago, boston, etc.
Miami summer weather isn't great, seems like there's always a rain delay. They should play in the winter league
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Old 05-03-2016, 08:12 PM
 
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Chicago and Seattle by far.
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Old 05-03-2016, 08:46 PM
 
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Major cities in my opinion are the central business districts of our Nation's top 20 MSAs (not CSAs). If Cleveland belongs in this thread, then I can think of about 10 others (ie KC, Baltimore, Charlotte, Tampa, Orlando, Cincinnati, Columbus, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, Nashville). Austin, San Antonio, Portland and San Diego makes 14.
As a Baltimore resident, I found downtown Cleveland very different from my home city. Downtown Cleveland has more impressive buildings than Baltimore's, but it has a lot less people on downtown streets and a lot less downtown traffic. Still, Cleveland stacks up pretty well if you only look at the buildings. Pittsburgh does a good job of having both impressive downtown buildings and lot of energy downtown. That, of course, is ideal.
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Old 03-24-2019, 02:50 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I'd say of major cities I've visited, San Diego, Columbus, and Colorado Springs have the cleanest downtowns. Las Vegas and Washington DC were pretty clean too.

I didn't think Seattle was that clean and there was a lot of trash and homeless people everywhere.
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