Gubernatorial Race 2018 (Atlanta, Kingston: trees, companies, pay)

[toll_booth]

Originally Posted by -thomass

Can we just 4 more years of Nathan the real Deal?

Nathan Deal is part of a dying breed of Republicans that understand that you can be both conservative and sane at the same time. Brian Kemp is not.

[ATLForr]

The people on this thread especially PrimalTech have made it seem that Georgia would be doomed if Kemp becomes governor. This is definitely not the case, Kemp does not hate minorities. Kemp dislikes illegal immigrants and with good reason, illegal immigrants have committed a crime just by crossing over the border without permission at non designated border crossings. This is a crime just like stealing somebodies car and then robbing them. Illegal immigrants make the process for people who want to enter this country the right way (legally) harder. The government have to put more resources to get the illegal immigrants legalized quickly than working on letting people who are trying to get in this country the right way. I am a minority myself (Asian, 2nd gen) and I identify myself as a conservative republican. PrimalTech and other people on this thread make it seem that all conservatives are old and white which is not the case at all.
Kemp’s goal is to target illegal immigrants who have commit serious and heinous crimes. His goal is to make sure they are off the streets. He also wants to make sure that criminals that are citizens and legal residents of Georgia no matter what race are off our streets.
He also wants to help small businesses by cutting taxes and useless mandates that hinder their path to prosperity.

[ATLForr]

Originally Posted by toll_booth

Nathan Deal is part of a dying breed of Republicans that understand that you can be both conservative and sane at the same time. Brian Kemp is not.

I do have to say I love Deal more than Kemp and wish he would just be governor for the next 4 years.

[ATLForr]

Originally Posted by toll_booth

We are Georgia, not California. Or Kansas and their complete failure, for that matter. Stay on topic.

Just saying, when Democrats control a state it’s not going to end well either. Illinois is another good example. We need to make sure that we (Georgia) do not become like Illinois or California politics wise.

[ATLForr]

Originally Posted by jsvh

The people who won't vote for Abrams because of the color of her skin are already going to vote in line with Trump's GOP regardless of who the alternative is.

Cannot be a more untrue statement. This is all assumptions without any facts at all.

[ATLForr]

Originally Posted by jsvh

There is not a single major city / business hub that went for Trump though is there? Even places like Cobb and Gwinnett did not vote for Trump.

Trump's GOP seems to be burning bridges with the business community at record rates.

Collin County Texas (Dallas suburb) is a huge business hub that went for Trump. Look at Frisco’s billion dollar mile and the number of businesses that are relocating there like Toyota.

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by ATLForr

Georgia will also not win when we have a Democrat in office. Look at California, it is a state controlled by Democrats. California’s high taxes are driving businesses and people out of the state to states that are heavily republican like Texas because Texas does not have so many government regulations that Democrats in California have implemented.

If this was True why isn't Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, and Louisiana the fastest growing states in the country?????

For most of last 50 years states like Georgia, Texas, North Carolina, Virginia have been dominate by moderate conservatives. Their more fiscal conservative, but more moderate when it comes to social issue. This why in 60's Atlanta was known as city too busy to hate but in Alabama and Birmingham you had George Wallace running right wing social issues.

Also How do think Cali, New York and etc got so big and populous in the first place? They had progressive leaders. The reason why people are leaving and those states aren't growing as fast is complex, For example cities like NY and LA are built out they have major land scarcity, This only drive the cost of living way more than the Taxes this makes most of the south cheaper alone with going into politics. Another thing southern weather is better more people are attractive to Atlanta, Dallas climate then Boston, Philly.

[brownhornet]

In a perfect world, people would look at Kemp and realize that it would be a terrible idea to have him in charge and vote for Abrams. Unfortunately, we live in the world where Georgia is in the south and one demographic over the age of 40 will be sure not to let that happen... even though she likely IS the best candidate.

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by ATLForr

Collin County Texas (Dallas suburb) is a huge business hub that went for Trump. Look at Frisco’s billion dollar mile and the number of businesses that are relocating there like Toyota.

Your really trying to mix up moderate business conservative with right wing social conservatives. Again there reason why Mississippi isn't an economics powerhouse. You criticize places like Cali, and IL politics but isn't funny how those ultra Liberial places like Bay Area, Boston NY, Chicago are still important business areas that affect the whole country. But ultra conservatives places are not. Apparently they most be doing right. Why did tech took off in Cali, why is Boston so known for higher education, why is the stock market is in NY but West Virginia why are these things? I would rather a NY democrats run GA 100x before a Mississippi republican get what I saying?

Collin County is a huge county, just cause the county went red doesn't mean there aren't moderate areas. Plano for example the largest city.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Pl...469158883.html

Yes the business are more leant towards republicans tax ideals, but they also prefer democrats ideals on infrastructure, diversity, education and etc.

Again for most of the last 50 years Georgia republicans were more business fucos, and wasn't going let right wing social ideas hurt the state economy from being more inclusive. Georgia going more to right to follow Mississippi is dangerous and would hurt that state.

[Forhall]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

Your really trying to mix up moderate business conservative with right wing social conservatives. Again there reason why Mississippi isn't an economics powerhouse. You criticize places like Cali, and IL politics but isn't funny how those ultra Liberial places like Bay Area, Boston NY, Chicago are still important business areas that affect the whole country. But ultra conservatives places are not. Apparently they most be doing right. Why did tech took off in Cali, why is Boston so known for higher education, why is the stock market is in NY but West Virginia why are these things? I would rather a NY democrats run GA 100x before a Mississippi republican get what I saying?

Collin County is a huge county, just cause the county went red doesn't mean there aren't moderate areas. Plano for example the largest city.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Pl...469158883.html

Yes the business are more leant towards republicans tax ideals, but they also prefer democrats ideals on infrastructure, diversity, education and etc.

Again for most of the last 50 years Georgia republicans were more business fucos, and wasn't going let right wing social ideas hurt the state economy from being more inclusive. Georgia going more to right to follow Mississippi is dangerous and would hurt that state.

Good point. Republicans point to how "republican states" are doing so much better, but it's the Democratic/liberal cities in those red States that are growing, not the Republican conservative rural areas. They point to Texas, which is driven by Austin, Dallas, and Houston. Goergia is driven by Atlanta. North Carolina by Raleigh and Charlotte. The rural conservative areas can't thrive because the educated workforce they would need doesn't want to live in a backwards, racist, homophobic area.