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Honestly, what difference does it make why a person wants to end their life? It's still an individual decision. I've seen botched suicides. These people are a burden to the health care system and to society for the rest of their unaware lives. Why is quantity more important than quality in every case? Not every one is religious yet we are forced into being kept alive because of religious beliefs. I've said it before and I'll say it again. We are kinder to our sick animals in this society than we are to suffering human beings that should have the right to chose a humane death if they wish. I think Dr. Kevorkian was right.
Kudz made some good points. In general, I tend to agree with you on this topic, until you decided to bash religion. That is also a choice people are free to make and needn't seek your approval for.
I see a parallel between assisted suicide and abortion. In both cases there is human life, but in a self-determined way, degraded human life.
I'm certain most Pro-Lifers would be against any assisted suicide. I'm the opposite, it is a great comfort to know that when I'm old and suffering, my doctor can help me pass peacefully when I'm ready.
No, I am about making your own choices in life and accepting responsibility for them. A baby is not given that choice, or that opportunity.
No, I am about making your own choices in life and accepting responsibility for them.
A baby is not given that choice, or that opportunity.
If you're now referring to the choice in abortion rights...
that choice and right lies with the woman who actually exists (not a baby that doesn't).
Safe... Legal... Rare... Prompt... Free
Rare by means of far better education and use of contraception than we have today.
Aside from the million conceptions lamented so thoroughly in this thread...
there are probably another million similarly ill considered conceptions to be avoided... that aren't.
Prompt because once that diligent, educated try to avoid conception line has been crossed...
and the choice to exercise the right has been made... NO ONE gains from delay.
Free because dealing with the costs are the single largest hindrance to prompt...
(and it's the best use of public funds if/when even available HI won't pay)
The right to make the choice without the ability to exercise it... isn't much of a choice at all.
We have assisted suicide here in Oregon, but it would not have worked for the Belgium brothers. Our law requires that you be terminally ill. Death with Dignity Act | Death with Dignity Act
I personally think that anyone should be able to end their life for any reason. For someone to take that extreme a measure, I would have to believe that they no longer found life bearable and did not want to continue. None of my business why. I would hope that they get counseling and evaluation to see if their situation can be ameliorated, but if they don't, again, not my business.
We could end suicide watch for inmates. Save the taxpayers a lot of dough. The gov't would never go for that though, they'd lose a cheap labor force.
If you're now referring to the choice in abortion rights...
that choice and right lies with the woman who actually exists (not a baby that doesn't).
Safe... Legal... Rare... Prompt... Free
Rare by means of far better education and use of contraception than we have today.
Aside from the million conceptions lamented so thoroughly in this thread...
there are probably another million similarly ill considered conceptions to be avoided... that aren't.
Prompt because once that diligent, educated try to avoid conception line has been crossed...
and the choice to exercise the right has been made... NO ONE gains from delay.
Free because dealing with the costs are the single largest hindrance to prompt...
(and it's the best use of public funds if/when even available HI won't pay)
The right to make the choice without the ability to exercise it... isn't much of a choice at all.
IMO she made that choice when she got pregnant. Let's not get into a battle about abortion. It's not really on topic.
Just wait, won't be long, when Medicare/Medicaid funding evaporates in the U.S!!! And then? Some of Hitler's ideas may even be adopted! And I hope I live long enough for that to happen, particularly if I keep procrastinating on filling out my Advance Health Directives where I won't be of sound mind to sign them.
Then? Totally incapacitated, kicking myself for procrastinating too long, cursing God, a kind, caring nurse comes to my bed some night with a lethal injection, masqueraded as a pain shot! Kisses and hugs to the Government for government-forced-euthanasia!
I work in a LTC/Rehab facility and that's one hot potato of a discussion you never bring up in one of these facilities, as the Administrators have panic attacks if the facility has one or two empty beds. And I've seen the utter desperation to secure their jobs, even with someone with a DNR in their file, they'll still try all they can to keep that "headcount" alive! There's a word for that: Criminal!
The enemies of assisted suicide laws in this country, it's not the religious Right, but the God-less, greedy, insensitive, uncaring nursing and medical institutions. These money-hungry nurses with their I Care buttons attached to their uniforms!
I think they should liberalize assisted suicide laws to match that famous clinic in Switzerland, and even if you've forever suffered from lingering depression, you're eligible!
We could end suicide watch for inmates. Save the taxpayers a lot of dough. The gov't would never go for that though, they'd lose a cheap labor force.
At these new SuperMax prisons, they've even made them suicide-proof. Those hooks you put clothes on are designed to come out of the wall if too much weight is put on them, to prevent hangings! Now that's a crime in itself, not allowing an inmate to choose between suicide and raping the taxpayers of $40-50k a year in taxes! And you can't even starve yourself to death in prison, either, or you'll be tube-fed!
It's not so much losing a cheap labor source, it's the prison unions: job security!
I think prisoners should be allowed to choose suicide if they want. I would rather die than spend a lifetime in prison. Everyone wins! It will save millions in taxpayer money, which can be diverted to fund more useful things.
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