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Old 03-26-2017, 03:39 AM
 
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People who have identities based on race do it because they are too weak to stand on their own as an individual and thus feel the need to resort to tribalism. It's frankly un-American and anti-western to have a racialist world view.
Un-American? America from it's founding, for hundreds of years, was based on a racialist world view. As a history nerd, have you considered what our world might look like today had it never been influenced by white culture?

 
Old 03-26-2017, 05:36 AM
 
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People who have identities based on race do it because they are too weak to stand on their own as an individual and thus feel the need to resort to tribalism. It's frankly un-American and anti-western to have a racialist world view.
Well you are obviously a hateful rascist then because you just said some unkind things about African Americans, asian and middle eastern people.

Modern day Western White people are some of the most tolerant and accepting people the world has ever seen.
 
Old 03-26-2017, 07:59 AM
 
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Society tells that them white men are top dogs socially and economically across the world. That makes them believe that they're entitled to any women they choose. We constantly reinforce imagery and ideology that expresses that men (especially white men) are owed whatever they want - including sex.

Pretty scary how groups of people can radicalize because they feel estranged from society and think that society owes them something, be it a job, respect, sex, success, etc. This is what happens when white people sacrifice social solidarity in the name of capitalistic pursuit.

These two paragraphs are sort of the "summit" of your reasoning - which is pretty typical left wing rhetoric. You really aren't any different than the people you criticize here - your thinking is all canned talking points.
 
Old 03-26-2017, 08:10 AM
 
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Well you are obviously a hateful rascist then because you just said some unkind things about African Americans, asian and middle eastern people.

Modern day Western White people are some of the most tolerant and accepting people the world has ever seen.
I'm not sure that is true. I have nothing against any race but I do find people with racialist beliefs to be worse than garbage.

Also that second part is ridiculous and betrays your bias.
 
Old 03-26-2017, 08:45 AM
 
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I'm leaning towards biology triggered by society first then race & I'm not sure politics can be implicated as a "cause".

If anything politics might be a secondary irritation. There has been a massive shift of expectations of men just within the last 3 generations that is in direct conflict with their DNA. Everything from industry, technology, civil rights & the legal system has changed faster in the last 50-100 yrs than any other element that has shaped human evolution.

And the impact on males has been much more disruptive than for females. A seven year old boy was suspended for chewing his pop tart into the shape of a gun & "pow-powing" his classmates. Throw a snowball & you get ISD. In the 1960's & early 70's, high school boys who got caught fighting got sent to coach to put the gloves on & "work it out".Now, that results in criminal charges. The energy & strength once harnessed to work a field & tend the livestock is now called ADHD. The "might makes right" factor that was once needed to protect your pregnant wife & offspring is now considered aggressive & inappropriate ... Illegal.

Anything once considered an attribute for a male 100 yrs ago has been almost criminalized. What we are seeing in society now is what happens to the male society during incarceration: They align by race (tribal behavior), stake out "turf" & design rank based on male dominance factors.

Human adaptation to changing enviornments was always determined by the human changing the enviornment as well as physical adaptation that takes place over hundereds of years & multi-generations. Basically, I feel like the human male in a developed society/country has been backed into a corner & now they are pushing back. This is the RE-action, not a curious phenomena that started by who knows what.
 
Old 03-26-2017, 11:37 AM
 
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Un-American? America from it's founding, for hundreds of years, was based on a racialist world view. As a history nerd, have you considered what our world might look like today had it never been influenced by white culture?
Our history is one of rejecting racism and mysticism to embrace the secular globalist ideals of the enlightenment. Other civilizations have at times done the same only to be ruined by culturalism and racialism.

Luckily capitalism is the greatest tool of enlightenment known to man.
 
Old 03-26-2017, 06:56 PM
 
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Un-American? America from it's founding, for hundreds of years, was based on a racialist world view. As a history nerd, have you considered what our world might look like today had it never been influenced by white culture?
Actually it would look really bad - like WV or KY or worse - if it were influenced by so-called "Anglo" culture which was the largest force in the economy of the South. They'd probably be dictatorships and still have slaves and advanced very little in the sciences...

As has been mentioned before, the settlers of the original Jamestown refused to move a muscle (work) until under threat of the NOOSE by a new commander sent there.

So the model of white supremacy - and let's not fool ourselves, it largely seeps out of the South and Texas, etc...the SLAVE STATES where anglos did almost nothing.

If you read your history you'll see that places like Texas were really really bad...until the GERMANS arrived. The Germans laughed at the Anglos - who owned hundreds of cows but were too lazy to even milk ONE. They set up their own towns and prospered.

And so, regardless of the color of the skin - the country is moved forward by the WORK of free people. It was largely immigrants including the Germans - who built a more civilized version than the "white trash supremacists" were living in.

Your world view reminds me of folks that diss California - the largest and most successful economy in the USA (and probably in the world) that has driven tens of trillions of dollars of wealth....in fact, you are probably using their products to write on this forum.

Yet most of the people I know from there - are Pakistani, Indian or from other Asian nations.

So, yes, I can imagine this world and country if the South prevailed. I can also see it now when the immigrants have prevailed. I prefer the later.
 
Old 03-27-2017, 08:22 AM
 
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Nonsense. But it's no surprise to me that these "OPINION" writers are all from the EU.

Where they arrest you for quoting Churchill.

OK. 62 Million Trump voters are all ~radicalised (British spelling not American English)....evil white men.

That's practically the entire population of the UK so they can mind their own business as far as I'm concerned.

I'll wait to read who's radicalizing the ANTIFA thugs attacking Trump supporters, thanks. OH WAIT. We already know. George Soros and the other Progressive Pro-Obama Globalists.
 
Old 03-28-2017, 05:11 AM
 
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Our history is one of rejecting racism and mysticism to embrace the secular globalist ideals of the enlightenment. Other civilizations have at times done the same only to be ruined by culturalism and racialism.

Luckily capitalism is the greatest tool of enlightenment known to man.
This is totally preposterous. White supremacy was understood and accepted from America's inception. No one in their right mind would deny that. But I guess Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, etc were all "un-American"...I'm afraid you're too far gone to have any kind of meaningful discussion.
 
Old 03-28-2017, 07:48 AM
 
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This is totally preposterous. White supremacy was understood and accepted from America's inception. No one in their right mind would deny that. But I guess Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, etc were all "un-American"...I'm afraid you're too far gone to have any kind of meaningful discussion.
And this goes hand and hand with America's ugly history of subjugating and dehumanizing non-whites which I'm sure you have no problem with. And you wonder why people have a problem with White supremacy.
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