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Old 03-22-2017, 06:39 AM
 
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Ah, posting in the wee hours can do strange things to one's base logic. The truth of "white culture" lies in the fact of its wide acceptance of a bygone brutality as something justifiable, the collective of ethnic supremacists is basically saying that being white skinned means never having to question your ancestors views.

As a white man I'm happy to say I don't agree with those supremacism concepts, as I am fully conscious of the true history of my kin. The Scot-Irish "culture"included a large component of societal brutality against their own kind, Lord only knows what their views of "outsiders" compelled them to do.

Thankfully, we in America do receive enough of an education to allow us to move beyond the blather of ignorance and hostility, the few who still cling to their so called "culture" are the truly lost, regardless of skin color. Culture in America has always been an elusive apparition of old Euro-notions, skin color does not make a "culture."

The dim witted misanthropes on the alt right are constantly on the lookout for any justification of their anti social notions, often referring to their basic forms of hatred as a "racial consciousness." Other euphemisms which attempt to mask their hate usually revolve around their feelings of being a "protector" of sorts, the last good men just trying to save their race..."Gleamed?"
Clearly a typo, but thanks for pointing it out.

I'm not sure why you quoted me at all as you didn't actually address my point. You wrote four paragraphs apparently just trying to sound intelligent, but failing. There are distinct cultures among the races, and they each have the right to preserve them.

 
Old 03-22-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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Clearly a typo, but thanks for pointing it out.

I'm not sure why you quoted me at all as you didn't actually address my point. You wrote four paragraphs apparently just trying to sound intelligent, but failing. There are distinct cultures among the races, and they each have the right to preserve them.
Your "point" was in fact nothing more than a regurgitation of the recruitment diatribes utilized by groups such as the defunct Aryan Nations, and others who have fallen by the wayside of public opinion. Maybe a tutorial on just what constitutes culture, according to you, would be helpful. It's a shame that the writing of one's thoughts are characterized as "just trying to sound intelligent," I guess I could respond in kind with a statement of your attempts to "sound thankful" for my pointing out a typo.

Your thinly disguised attempts to make racism appear as a normal facet of cultural preservation goes beyond most of the rationale which would support cultural preservation, of course you know this but persist in the charade of a calm and rational presentation for the rest of us to ponder. The trouble with your views on race, culture, and class, lies in the fact that most of your thoughts on these aspects of American social constructs seem devoid of reason, and instead are outright attempts to allow racism as something of a cultural prerogative. That view is a learned one, and one that stems from racist thought, and certainly not a natural component of culture.

Looking at the current state of socio/political upheaval in America while simultaneously pondering our culture makes me think of those much older societies which faltered and crashed under the weight of their cultural differences with their neighbors. "Culture before reason," could have been their national motto, something our better educated populace seems to have recognized as a dangerous kind of racist statism disguised as a need to "preserve our precious white heritage." To be fair, I don't think this infatuation with one's race or culture serves anyone to the extent that a little caring about each other would. Caring only about those who share your skin color defies the notion of a nation united, and that will be our legacy if we so choose, black and white.
 
Old 03-22-2017, 01:22 PM
 
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Your "point" was in fact nothing more than a regurgitation of the recruitment diatribes utilized by groups such as the defunct Aryan Nations, and others who have fallen by the wayside of public opinion. Maybe a tutorial on just what constitutes culture, according to you, would be helpful. It's a shame that the writing of one's thoughts are characterized as "just trying to sound intelligent," I guess I could respond in kind with a statement of your attempts to "sound thankful" for my pointing out a typo.

Your thinly disguised attempts to make racism appear as a normal facet of cultural preservation goes beyond most of the rationale which would support cultural preservation, of course you know this but persist in the charade of a calm and rational presentation for the rest of us to ponder. The trouble with your views on race, culture, and class, lies in the fact that most of your thoughts on these aspects of American social constructs seem devoid of reason, and instead are outright attempts to allow racism as something of a cultural prerogative. That view is a learned one, and one that stems from racist thought, and certainly not a natural component of culture.

Looking at the current state of socio/political upheaval in America while simultaneously pondering our culture makes me think of those much older societies which faltered and crashed under the weight of their cultural differences with their neighbors. "Culture before reason," could have been their national motto, something our better educated populace seems to have recognized as a dangerous kind of racist statism disguised as a need to "preserve our precious white heritage." To be fair, I don't think this infatuation with one's race or culture serves anyone to the extent that a little caring about each other would. Caring only about those who share your skin color defies the notion of a nation united, and that will be our legacy if we so choose, black and white.
Race, culture and class are nothing more than American social constructs? Am I reading that correctly?
 
Old 03-22-2017, 08:32 PM
 
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Given your posts thus far, this does not surprise me. It's clear you're not racially conscious, and my guess is that your breadth of knowledge on the subject has been gleamed from television talk shows or the MSM. Have you ever sought any intellectual thought on the matter?

American culture was for hundreds of years uniquely white. This was reflected in our literature, films, music, social customs, religion, language, etc. To not understand this is to not understand culture at all. The differences between this culture and that of other races are easily discernible.
You're hurting your argument by talking about culture. "Culture" is a weasel word, and it's hard to describe. What you should be concerned about -- and what you have every right to be concerned about -- is our people. Ourselves. Not our culture.

We need to preserve our existence on this planet, just like everybody else.
 
Old 03-22-2017, 09:38 PM
 
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You're hurting your argument by talking about culture. "Culture" is a weasel word, and it's hard to describe. What you should be concerned about -- and what you have every right to be concerned about -- is our people. Ourselves. Not our culture.

We need to preserve our existence on this planet, just like everybody else.
I find it odd that you consider yourself to be part of a particular "people."
 
Old 03-24-2017, 12:05 PM
 
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You're hurting your argument by talking about culture. "Culture" is a weasel word, and it's hard to describe. What you should be concerned about -- and what you have every right to be concerned about -- is our people. Ourselves. Not our culture.

We need to preserve our existence on this planet, just like everybody else.
I was responding to the poster who claims that he identifies with US culture without seeming to realize that it's a uniquely white culture.

I understand what you're saying, but people like those on this thread would ask you to explain "why?". They think people are people, so why not just mongrelize all of the races? Or flood our nation with non-white immigrants? If they can understand the negative cultural impact these actions are having, they might begin to see why race matters.
 
Old 03-24-2017, 02:34 PM
 
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I was responding to the poster who claims that he identifies with US culture without seeming to realize that it's a uniquely white culture.

I understand what you're saying, but people like those on this thread would ask you to explain "why?". They think people are people, so why not just mongrelize all of the races? Or flood our nation with non-white immigrants? If they can understand the negative cultural impact these actions are having, they might begin to see why race matters.
To an extent this is already done - the Hawaiian people and, at this point, many easterners (my people who were 1900 immigrants) have already married out of their religions/basic ethnicity and are currently in the process (taking a longer view) of marrying spouses with completely different skin colors, etc.

Mongrel? Clearly you haven't studied DNA or done 23&3 yet! My family was 50/50 italian russian, but looking further back it had scottish, scandanavian, north african and many other places. Now I have relatives who are only on step removed who are from Korea, China and Taiwan.

The only thing we don't yet have in our family is african-american and native american (none in the last 10-20 generations at least)...

I think the future is already here and many of the races are "mongrelized" in your parlance. Heck, did you think Mexicans looked like that? Or were they "mongrelized" by Spanish and many others?

Too late to turn back the clock now. This is not some "plot", but the normal consequence of easy transportation and communication.
 
Old 03-24-2017, 07:57 PM
 
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I was responding to the poster who claims that he identifies with US culture without seeming to realize that it's a uniquely white culture.

I understand what you're saying, but people like those on this thread would ask you to explain "why?". They think people are people, so why not just mongrelize all of the races? Or flood our nation with non-white immigrants? If they can understand the negative cultural impact these actions are having, they might begin to see why race matters.
LOL

This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The only culture that deserves to exist is secular humanistic pluralism. The sooner the "white culture" dies off the better.
 
Old 03-25-2017, 05:10 AM
 
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LOL

This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The only culture that deserves to exist is secular humanistic pluralism. The sooner the "white culture" dies off the better.
Wow so much hate and intolerance.
 
Old 03-25-2017, 08:12 AM
 
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Wow so much hate and intolerance.
People who have identities based on race do it because they are too weak to stand on their own as an individual and thus feel the need to resort to tribalism. It's frankly un-American and anti-western to have a racialist world view.
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