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Old 10-18-2009, 01:36 AM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Originally Posted by ElysianEagle View Post
well, the dating site OKCupid recently released stats that confirms what the OP has been saying - "your race affects whether people write you back".

see:

Your Race Affects Whether People Write You Back « OkTrends
This study only serves to prove what I've known all along. Love isn't, nor has it ever been, colorblind. And while many may argue that "it's just preference", there is no doubt that many of the underlying motivations are indeed race-based, and stem from a particularly nefarious and pervasive cultural conditioning. In a word, no one wants to be black, and everyone wants to be white.

 
Old 10-18-2009, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Very informative post, thank you, but I don't think the OP will have any idea what you are talking about, since none of this is an issue in the black community.
It's more of an issue with Asians seeking out partners based on perceived societal status rather than genuine attraction or love. While apparently pragmatic, it tends to strike me as notoriously superficial and simple-minded. As a group, they are conditioned to think it is in their best interest to avoid the "black community" at all costs, while shamelessly pursuing assimilation with whites by any means. Unfortunately this leads to an overwhelming individual bias amongst Asians against even the most "qualified" of potential black suitors.
 
Old 10-18-2009, 01:53 AM
 
Location: Bayou City
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And people wonder why I'm looking at Texas (of all places) to eventually call home, even at a higher preference than California at this point.

And to Miu, as I said over time, I am also willing to date anyone regardless of race (or mixture of races), I'm not this Asianphile or Afrophobe that you may think I am! I really don't appreciate the pigeonholing me to "stick to my race" that I deal enough as is for the "liberal enclave" where I live!
Texas.....ehhhh, depends. San Antonio might be your best bet actually.
 
Old 10-18-2009, 04:56 AM
 
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It's more of an issue with Asians seeking out partners based on perceived societal status rather than genuine attraction or love. While apparently pragmatic, it tends to strike me as notoriously superficial and simple-minded. As a group, they are conditioned to think it is in their best interest to avoid the "black community" at all costs, while shamelessly pursuing assimilation with whites by any means. Unfortunately this leads to an overwhelming individual bias amongst Asians against even the most "qualified" of potential black suitors.
those statistics should change in the future anyways. there was a recent poll that showed young asian-americans prefer to date other asian-americans first as they are getting more assimilated and more comfortable with their identity. the younger generation is showing similar patterns in asia moreso than in the past. for instance, in the past there were not enough asian role models especially in the fashion or entertainment industry so the demographics and thier interests can change and evolve as time goes on.

it tends to be an issue of power and a lot of people seek out those they perceive to be the "in" group or those who have power. as far as black suitors, many blacks may not find asians attractive either among other things. it's not like most people are trying to date outside of their race just to prove a point.
 
Old 10-18-2009, 06:30 AM
 
Location: New Kensington (Parnassus) ,Pa
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It's more of an issue with Asians seeking out partners based on perceived societal status rather than genuine attraction or love. While apparently pragmatic, it tends to strike me as notoriously superficial and simple-minded. As a group, they are conditioned to think it is in their best interest to avoid the "black community" at all costs, while shamelessly pursuing assimilation with whites by any means. Unfortunately this leads to an overwhelming individual bias amongst Asians against even the most "qualified" of potential black suitors.
In reality, what is the percentage of black men that are highly successful. Not a lot of choice here.
 
Old 10-18-2009, 06:46 AM
 
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I'm trying to figure out why you don't try going out with Black women if you feel women of other races aren't interested in your seriously.
 
Old 10-18-2009, 07:09 AM
 
Location: New Kensington (Parnassus) ,Pa
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It's more of an issue with Asians seeking out partners based on perceived societal status rather than genuine attraction or love. While apparently pragmatic, it tends to strike me as notoriously superficial and simple-minded. As a group, they are conditioned to think it is in their best interest to avoid the "black community" at all costs, while shamelessly pursuing assimilation with whites by any means. Unfortunately this leads to an overwhelming individual bias amongst Asians against even the most "qualified" of potential black suitors.
It is called, upholding to a set of moral values and tradition, something the black communities tend to be lacking.
 
Old 10-18-2009, 07:19 AM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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I married a white woman, and have been married to her for 26 years.

I can only assume that means that all black, Hispanic, Asian, Native American and Indian women are racist haters.

At least then I'd be consistent with the OP.
 
Old 10-18-2009, 07:21 AM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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Blacks aren't exactly an Asians idea of being good looking. Traditionally, dark skinned Asians were perceived more as lower class citizens in their home countries as the darker skin was due to being exposed to the sun while laboring as peasant workers. Meanwhile, they revered those who were smart, intellectual and with academic credentials, and those with high education naturally had paler skin from hours of study and writing indoors. Historically, even before Asians (Chinese and Japanese) ever interacted with whites, having pale skin was deserved by them.

Black culture is also more outgoing and louder than Asian culture. Asians are known for being polite, quiet and even submissive. Blacks are not. And culturally, Asians are more formal and with a stricter moral code about sex.

Asians are generally more petite in build than blacks. The Asians born and raised in the US are taller and heavier due to the American diet that is heavy on meats and dairy products. Blacks seem more proud of their physical prowess (and they do excel in professional sports) and their sexuality. You don't see many Asians in sports, definitely not in football. While I had one Asian friend that loved playing basketball, 30 years ago, he was the only Asian in the city's basketball league. And it broke his heart that he wasn't tall enough to pursue his sport further.

Anyway, I know that there are a good number of non-Asians that aren't physically attracted to Asians.... it's no big deal and it doesn't bother us. We aren't looking for that sort of validation from non-Asians. In terms of living in the US, our only desire is to have equal access to nice places to live, good jobs and a better quality of life than in the home country aka to live the "American Dream" but that doesn't include interracial love. If it happens, it happens, but being able to date and marry interracially is not very high on our list of wants.

Even talking with my Asian guy friends who are in their late 20's, while they may admire the usual hot looking actresses and female celebrities, and even date an occasional non-Asian woman, when they talk about future marriage and kids stuff, they only plan to marry an Asian woman of their own nationality, even if they haven't met her yet. I don't consider that being racist. They just have a strong sense of wanting to preserve their family traditions. But there is never any talk of Asians being superior or some other race being inferior. And if part of this desire is wanting sons that look exactly like them, what is wrong with that?
 
Old 10-18-2009, 07:47 AM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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It's more of an issue with Asians seeking out partners based on perceived societal status rather than genuine attraction or love. While apparently pragmatic, it tends to strike me as notoriously superficial and simple-minded. As a group, they are conditioned to think it is in their best interest to avoid the "black community" at all costs, while shamelessly pursuing assimilation with whites by any means. Unfortunately this leads to an overwhelming individual bias amongst Asians against even the most "qualified" of potential black suitors.
Most Asians only want to marry Asians of their own nationality. And they want children that look just like them, not mixed ones. It's more about having pride in ones ethnicity.

And of the Asians that marry whites, well first of all, there are a lot more whites than blacks. Blacks are only 12% of the US populations. Then factor in that there aren't enough good husband material black men for the black women... plus that blacks aren't that physically attractive to most Asians.

And I am still amazed that we have these sorts of discussions on the boards. The black community has so many other more important issues to deal with such as getting better education for their kids, solving their higher than average unemployment numbers, and single parent families, so that being able to date interracially should not even be on the list of their gripes. Dating interracially is not a civil right in the sense that you can't guilt trip other races into wanting to date outside their race or physical preferences. You can't go around accusing others of being racist if they aren't interested in being physically intimate with you or any other black person. You can't mandate that every person be required to date at least one person outside their race in order to prove that they aren't racist.

Anyway, if a black man wants to be considered good dating material by an Asian woman, he should be on a good career path so that he can be a good provider for a wife and kids. He shouldn't approach a non-black woman in a smooth talking ladies man fashion. No talk in the beginning about how sexy or fine she looks. He needs to act like a gentleman and to let her know that he dates very selectively. He'd better not have any other girlfriends or baby mommas in his life. He'd better be interested in having a serious monogamous relationship that leads to marriage if all goes well. He also needs to be able to be very polite and well mannered around her family and parents. It's important that her parents approve of him, but that's where his college education and good career path will help win them over. They didn't immigrate to this country and struggle working two menial jobs in order to raise their kids properly and then to let their daughters throw her live away on a bum of any skin colour.
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