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Old 04-14-2011, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Again...the whole scenario could have been explained WITHOUT mentioning the color of the bad guys.
So seeing as YOU wont let this die like I suggested then YOU can explain what EXACTLY is the need to point out the color of the crooks.
Be specific.
No further explanation is needed.
My first post said exactly what I wanted to say.
Furthermore my post was directed at you.
Therefore it is not necessary for me to comment on the original account of the robbery attempt.

I was inquiring about your assumptions and motives.
In case I was too vague, let me be more clear.
My implication is that for the most part people that raise this type of objection are using it as a form of attack designed to suppress the exchange if ideas.
This type of attack is intended to induce Fear of being labeled a racist.
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Old 04-14-2011, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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I can see the need to obtain a CCW and carry if one held an occupation or worked in an area which would be prudent to be defensively armed. There is no paranoia only common sense and proactive security measures. Examples are obvious and need not be enumerated.

Concealed carry is actually a considerable burden because one is educated in the use of the firearm and the laws pertaining to it's use. It is a conscious decision to obtain a CCW. I can see where having a CCW would actually make a person even more responsible in the use of a firearm as they would be aware of the points of law regarding it's use and misuse. Again, this is for the responsible user not the immature or the crimminal minded.

You are from South Florida laidbackhippie and posting in this thread so I presume you must know that the CCW process in Florida is a standard bearer for responsible concealed carry. Unlike so many other types of licensing in the U.S., CCW in Florida actually has no taint of abuse.

For the record I do not have a CCW because I do not need one although I would obtain one if my work duties placed me in a situation where I may be a target of crime. I do learn from hearing differing opinions but the type of responses you have written are in no manner constructive or educational.

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Old 04-14-2011, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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I think that 99 percent of civilians who feel that they need to carry a gun are paranoid and need psychological assistance.

I have never met a civilian gun "enthusiast" that didn't have a story about when they "had to use their weapon"

Hey, I have an idea ! Join the Army, then you can have some real stories and advice.

Hogwash..... If you have a gun, there is no reason to be paranoid.
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Old 04-14-2011, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Newport, Rhode Island
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Hogwash..... If you have a gun, there is no reason to be paranoid.

that's the exact attitude that gets gun enthusiasts in trouble.


If you show it or shoot it ............. there is a big chance that, if you actually live through it, you will be in and out of the court system for many years to come.
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Old 04-14-2011, 07:59 AM
 
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The gun nuts read all the stories in Guns and Ammo and other magazines about how a gun owner "foiled a robbery" and truly believe that one day they'll be a hero too.
That statement just shows how far off you really are, I personally would never try to foil a robbery, my gun is for my and my families protection, I'm not a cop, it's not my duty to prevent crimes to anyone other than me, unless the BG started shooting people I'd let him go about his business.
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:01 AM
 
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that's the exact attitude that gets gun enthusiasts in trouble.


If you show it or shoot it ............. there is a big chance that, if you actually live through it, you will be in and out of the court system for many years to come.
Not at all, in some states it's perfectly legal to brandish if you feel threatened, and legal to shoot someone in self defense, but thanks for showing us you have no clue what your talking about
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:07 AM
 
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that's the exact attitude that gets gun enthusiasts in trouble.


If you show it or shoot it ............. there is a big chance that, if you actually live through it, you will be in and out of the court system for many years to come.
Why are you even in this thread...this is not a bashing gun thread, or the people who have them....

Yet, you decided to throw in your own opinion and try and get people mad....which does/did not happen by the way....given your opinion that we need Dr. assistance...

We who carry or have guns, are used to people like you, we are not paranoid..nor do we need help from anyone from the doctor side of the house.

Nobody want to be a hero as you say....we want to beable to to protect ourselves from those who do not obey the law...

Again, go troll somewhere else....
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:09 AM
 
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never mind
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:10 AM
 
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Not at all, in some states it's perfectly legal to brandish if you feel threatened, and legal to shoot someone in self defense, but thanks for showing us you have no clue what your talking about
That's one reason I'm glad I live in Texas. Brandishing is illegal, but if you shoot someone trying to harm you or others, it's a safe bet you'll be acquitted fairly quick. I have a personal story about how brandishing probably saved my own skin once, but I won't get into that here.

I'll just say that showing your weapon can save you from a carjacking. And carjackers aren't likely to complain to police.
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Originally Posted by tigger37708
Hogwash..... If you have a gun, there is no reason to be paranoid.



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Originally Posted by laidbackhippie View Post
that's the exact attitude that gets gun enthusiasts in trouble.


If you show it or shoot it ............. there is a big chance that, if you actually live through it, you will be in and out of the court system for many years to come.

Ridiculous!!!
There can be no connection between the absence of paranoia and getting into trouble.

Disingenuous!!
You imply a connection between the absence of paranoia
and
Brandishing a firearm.
There is no such connection.

Preposterous!!!
Many states have severe penalties for allowing a concealed firearm to be seen. Even unintentionally.
Furthermore your last statement is so full of contradictions I hardly know where to start.
Implying you may not live through an assault is by definition a justification for defensive action.

Allowing yourself to be killed just to avoid a possible court inquiry is insane.
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