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Do you have a source for that? In 1985 the median sales price for a single family home was $158,000 and a condo was $89,800. I don't see data prior to 1985 but I have doubts rent was all that expensive 50 years ago (1969)
No it's all anecdotal evidence from my parents and everyone else I've talked to that were living here (as adults) in the 60's and 70's. I know the house my parents bought in a very modest part of Hawaii Kai (Koko Head Terrace) in the 70's cost a fortune relative to what it would cost in almost any other place in the contiguous US. I would only assume rents were inordinately high (again, compared to most mainland cities) because of the high cost to purchase a home many decades ago.
I agree 100%! Why would anyone think it could possibly be a bad idea to heat the house by burning the furniture in the living room? We need more coal, more oil, drill baby drill!!
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Now, what does any of this have to do with leaving Maui?
on the topic if high energy cost due to burning almost exclusively fossil fuels... why more people in hawaii dont get behind alternative energy like geothermal and connecting all the islands into 1 large power grid is beyond me. I think our average energy cost is something like triple the national average.
on the topic if high energy cost due to burning almost exclusively fossil fuels... why more people in hawaii dont get behind alternative energy like geothermal and connecting all the islands into 1 large power grid is beyond me. I think our average energy cost is something like triple the national average.
They had geothermal on the Big Island until M Pele decided bunkered it in with lava. It was a huge NIMBY issue.
Nuclear would be great, but again, opposed by the vocal minority, I suspect.
Hawaii is expensive, to be sure, but as much as people rail against it, I suspect they would hate the alternative even more, i.e. lowered cost of living and a glut of new residents taking advantage thereof. The high costs are sort of a second moat keeping the rabble away.
They had geothermal on the Big Island until M Pele decided bunkered it in with lava. It was a huge NIMBY issue.
Nuclear would be great, but again, opposed by the vocal minority, I suspect.
Hawaii is expensive, to be sure, but as much as people rail against it, I suspect they would hate the alternative even more, i.e. lowered cost of living and a glut of new residents taking advantage thereof. The high costs are sort of a second moat keeping the rabble away.
good points, didnt think about it that way actually.
funny thing you mention nuclear. Interesting how some people would be super against it, there's multiple nuclear reactors sitting in pearl harbor almost year round.
Interesting how some people would be super against it, there's multiple nuclear reactors sitting in pearl harbor almost year round.
It is one thing to have nuclear powered ships and another to have a land based nuclear reactor on an island chain prone to earthquakes, Tsunami's, and potential hurricanes.
Speaking of how those land based nuclear reactors do with an earthquake and subsequent Tsunami, I suspect the good people of Fukushima, Japan have some regrets and wish they could walk back that decision.
It is one thing to have nuclear powered ships and another to have a land based nuclear reactor on an island chain prone to earthquakes, Tsunami's, and potential hurricanes.
Speaking of how those land based nuclear reactors do with an earthquake and subsequent Tsunami, I suspect the good people of Fukushima, Japan have some regrets and wish they could walk back that decision.
Good point. and im sure those nuke subs all swim away when theres an impending disaster.
Location: not sure, but there's a hell of a lot of water around here!
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good points, didnt think about it that way actually.
funny thing you mention nuclear. Interesting how some people would be super against it, there's multiple nuclear reactors sitting in pearl harbor almost year round.
If you have solar panels you're harnessing a nuclear reactor, in a sense.
Do you have a source for that? In 1985 the median sales price for a single family home was $158,000 and a condo was $89,800. I don't see data prior to 1985 but I have doubts rent was all that expensive 50 years ago (1969)
I recalled that in 1975, the exiled Cambodia dictator Lon Nol fled to Oahu and bought a nice house at Kumukahi Place in Hawaii Kai Marina. The price was $100,000 and it was teased in Network news. By that time it was a big sum and many people were pissed off because US had spent that much money in the Vietnam War.
In mid-1970s, my sister rented a 2 bedroom apartment somewhere around University Avenue. It was about $400/month.
So totally off thread ^^^^^ lemme help with this 'HI, Maui gotta hate it stuff' ---the horrid Heat Wave this year so early, so unrelentingly hot & somehow humid even in Kihei, ugh. Everyone in the tundralands, be happy you are not in awful HI, esp Maui! Horrid climate, bugs, etc etc............................
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