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Originally Posted by mauiwowie
Do you always do this? Make up your own info? You said I didn't include all the 14th Amendment when I clearly had and are again claiming I'm doing something I'm not.
You are inventing your own reality.
Your 1st post on the topic
Just so we are clear. You asserted that the 14th Amendment prohibits children from being citizens based on the 14th Amendment. Right?
I then quoted the entirety of the 14th Amendment 2X.
The relevant portion about citizenship is Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
That is the entirety of the citizenship clause. I've left out the rest of sec 1 because I've already quoted it.
You are focused on Section. 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
I wish I had your creative flair.
This section does not modify Section 1. It deals with Congressional Representation. It modified the horrid 3/5 rule and ensured that representation would be divided among all the population (excluding Indians nontaxed). Further, it included language to punish those states that did not let all males aged 21 or older vote by reducing their population accordingly.
The specific provision you wrote about denies the right to vote on a state provisioned basis for felonies.
Let's be clear. Section 2 has nothing whatsoever to do with Section 1. The only 14th Amendment language dealing with citizenship is Section 1 and it gives citizenship to everyone born within US jurisdiction.
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here you go;
1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the
jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State
deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without
due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Do you not see that they get due process of law? And guess what? that line without due process of law is the open area we can deport the anchor babies too. Why? Because their parent/parents committed a felony when they came here illegally.
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