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Old 07-25-2010, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Clearly, nothing will suffice. Continue to dwell on what you consider to be a lie, while ignoring the facts.
Those stories come from Nuevo Laredo, a MEXICAN city on the other side of the border. They are not in LAREDO, a U.S. city, where the lie told in the story in the OP allegedly took place. And, so far at least, I will not have to tender any sort of apology for calling the story exactly what it was, a HUGE LIE.

According to th OP, the U.S. was invaded by drug cartel members who forced the owners of two U.S. ranches off their property, which would constitute an invasion and make the situation subject to military action.

We have no control nor jurisdiction over any incident occurring on the other side of the Mexican Border.

 
Old 07-25-2010, 09:30 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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My question is this ... why are local LEOs in Laredo refusing to outright deny the reports if this is a hoax? Wouldent you think if it was a hoax that they would outright say so. By saying things like "I can't walk about those reports right now" or "I will neither confirm or deny" they are only fueling these rumors.

As of right now I am leaning towards an actual incident that was blown way out of proportion. Something clearly did happen down there or else they would be outright denying the reports which they are not doing.
 
Old 07-25-2010, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Here's the Webb County, TX sheriff's phone number for any of you who would like to call and ask.

1-956-523-4500
 
Old 07-25-2010, 09:39 AM
 
Location: The Heartland
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I want to say a couple of things here because there are some posters claiming that lies are being told and speculating that those perceived lies are inciting.

The OP clearly states quote "This is breaking news and may not be 100% accurate. I have searched for more info but everything I find links back to this story."

Every post I have made was info from the web and I believe that I was the first to post that this may be a false alarm. I was in no way lying, inciting, or "insert any other pejorative here" to anyone.

People on this forum, for the most part, are fully capable of taking information and discerning what to make of that information without certain hysterical posters screaming inciting, scare tactics, lies, racism, etc. like they are the only ones who can say what is truth or fiction or what was the motive of each poster.

There is a real, factual problem on the southern border weather some of you want to believe it or not and there have been several posts pointing this out. This story has still yet to be fully debunked and I, and I hope others are staying on top of the story and will post what is found.

As one poster pointed out, sometimes early info can be sketchy but this happens to the MSM as well, just look at the Sherrod story, so calm down and let this play out where ever it takes us.
 
Old 07-25-2010, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Those stories come from Nuevo Laredo, a MEXICAN city on the other side of the border. They are not in LAREDO, a U.S. city, where the lie told in the story in the OP allegedly took place. And, so far at least, I will not have to tender any sort of apology for calling the story exactly what it was, a HUGE LIE.

According to th OP, the U.S. was invaded by drug cartel members who forced the owners of two U.S. ranches off their property, which would constitute an invasion and make the situation subject to military action.

We have no control nor jurisdiction over any incident occurring on the other side of the Mexican Border.
Thank you, but I know the difference between Texas and Mexico. However, the violence is spilling over the border, whether you choose to believe it or not. Perhaps when it becomes so out of control that it can no longer be ignored by our government or the MSM, you will finally realize how volatile this situation is. Until then, enjoy!

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Just as government officials had feared, the drug violence raging in Mexico is spilling over into the United States.

And to some policymakers' surprise, much of the violence is happening not in towns along the border, where it was assumed the bloodshed would spread, but a considerable distance away, in places such as Phoenix and Atlanta.

Investigators fear the violence could erupt elsewhere around the country because the Mexican cartels are believed to have set up drug-dealing operations all over the U.S., in such far-flung places as Anchorage, Alaska; Boston; and Sioux Falls, S.D.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29105630/

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There is conflicting evidence on whether drug-related violence has spread across the border into the United States, or if it still remains mostly confined to Mexico.

Quite frankly, judging by incidents above, the point is irrelevant. Unless the border is secured, and by this I mean really secured, it is only a matter of time before the violence crosses over to this country.

If the United States is fighting two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in order to prevent terrorists attacks in our homeland, the least we can do is secure the Mexican border. The violence there is much closer to home and is certain to spill over unless we secure our border.
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/201...lated-violence

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Old 07-25-2010, 09:44 AM
 
Location: The Heartland
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Here's the Webb County, TX sheriff's phone number for any of you who would like to call and ask.

1-956-523-4500
As most of you know this story went viral and I am sure that the Sheriffs office is being inundated with calls so I would advise we wait for reports rather than try and contact the sheriff and tie their lines up.
 
Old 07-25-2010, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by TRUEGRITT View Post
I want to say a couple of things here because there are some posters claiming that lies are being told and speculating that those perceived lies are inciting.

The OP clearly states quote "This is breaking news and may not be 100% accurate. I have searched for more info but everything I find links back to this story."

Every post I have made was info from the web and I believe that I was the first to post that this may be a false alarm. I was in no way lying, inciting, or "insert any other pejorative here" to anyone.

People on this forum, for the most part, are fully capable of taking information and discerning what to make of that information without certain hysterical posters screaming inciting, scare tactics, lies, racism, etc. like they are the only ones who can say what is truth or fiction or what was the motive of each poster.

There is a real, factual problem on the southern border weather some of you want to believe it or not and there have been several posts pointing this out. This story has still yet to be fully debunked and I, and I hope others are staying on top of the story and will post what is found.

As one poster pointed out, sometimes early info can be sketchy but this happens to the MSM as well, just look at the Sherrod story, so calm down and let this play out where ever it takes us.
I never called you a liar, and I'm sorry if you interpreted it that way.

I said "The story was a lie".

I stand by that 100%. It was, and it is, regardless of how much trouble there is on either side of the Mexican border.
 
Old 07-25-2010, 09:47 AM
 
Location: The Heartland
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I never called you a liar, and I'm sorry if you interpreted it that way.

I said "The story was a lie".

I stand by that 100%. It was, and it is, regardless of how much trouble there is on either side of the Mexican border.
We heard you loud and clear the first time.
 
Old 07-25-2010, 10:08 AM
 
Location: The Heartland
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Laredo Police: We Can’t Say Anything!

“We have been advised to say nothing. The Webb County Sheriff is taking the lead on this and they’re advising that they can’t confirm anything either.”
Laredo Police Department Spokesperson

Earlier incidents of Mexican military helicopters sighted in South Texas include possibility local authorities were muzzled by higher-ups
 
Old 07-25-2010, 10:21 AM
 
Location: The Heartland
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New Patriot Journal Confirms Authorities on Scene in Laredo

Written By: Cindy Chafian
Published: 7/25/2010

Update:

As of 10:00p.m. PST New Patriot Journal has verified though independent sources in the Laredo police department that there may be some validity to the rumors that have been circulating for the past 24 hours. Reports are that U.S. Border Patrol agents as well as officers from the Webb County Sheriff’s department are confirming reports that a call was received by a local rancher in the Santa Isabel River area outside of Laredo, TX Friday night regarding unauthorized men and vehicles on his land. Currently County and Federal officials are on the scene.

Sources inside the Laredo P.D. confirmed reports that starting Friday night an altercation between unidentified people had taken over one ranch but that the situation is not within the jurisdiction of the Laredo P.D. so they don’t have officers working it.
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