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Again, whether they entered legally or illegally over one hundred years ago has absolutely no relevance to our current immigration laws, or massive illegal immigration today.
Yes, it's kind of pointless and idiotic to bring up events that took place 200 or 400 years ago and try to justify anything today. That would be like saying because someone's ancestors owned slaves, it's okay to own slaves today.
Yes, it's kind of pointless and idiotic to bring up events that took place 200 or 400 years ago and try to justify anything today. That would be like saying because someone's ancestors owned slaves, it's okay to own slaves today.
Agreed. That attitude you are talking about would blow back on any LatAm country as well as China and most other places in 2012.
Why didn't your ancestors stay in their homeland to try and make it better instead of abandoning it?
My parents came here from Canada when my father earned his Ph.D at Cornell University in NY and was offered a professorship and became one of the founders of a US University Veterinary School. Dad became an American citizen because he was earning his livelihood in the US. Mom staunchly retained her Canadian citizenship for 35 years until she became a US citizen in the 1980s. Therefore, my family enriched this country and came here legally.
My parents came here from Canada when my father earned his Ph.D at Cornell University in NY and was offered a professorship and became one of the founders of a US University Veterinary School. Dad became an American citizen because he was earning his livelihood in the US. Mom staunchly retained her Canadian citizenship for 35 years until she became a US citizen in the 1980s. Therefore, my family enriched this country and came here legally.
Which still didn't really answer the question. Amazingly, did you know someone like your children could actually regain Canadian citizenship? But we do hear quite a bit here about children of Mexican Nationals gaining that Mexican nationality (not citizenship in their case).
Your mother did not actually lose her Canadian citizenship, although your father may have if he did not attempt to retain it...
Which still didn't really answer the question. Amazingly, did you know someone like your children could actually regain Canadian citizenship? But we do hear quite a bit here about children of Mexican Nationals gaining that Mexican nationality (not citizenship in their case).
Your mother did not actually lose her Canadian citizenship, although your father may have if he did not attempt to retain it...
They didn't get their Mexican citizenship due to their parents failing to register the birth abroad with their consul here in the US. The least you could do is give all the correct details vs leaving open to somehow make a straw-man point.
They didn't get their Mexican citizenship due to their parents failing to register the birth abroad with their consul here in the US. The least you could do is give all the correct details vs leaving open to somehow make a straw-man point.
Mexico makes a heavy distinction between Mexican Nationals and Mexican citizens. There is no jus sanguinis for Mexican citizenship derived from birth to non-ambassadorial Mexican citizens/nationals abroad. Here are the correct details as I understand them, whether an eye roll back at you, or an apology is warranted: Mexican nationality law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Birth to illegal aliens in the United States, and whether that child gains the nationality/citizenship of the parents, should be expanded more to include almost all countries of the world, not just for Mexico...
Mexico makes a heavy distinction between Mexican Nationals and Mexican citizens. There is no jus sanguinis for Mexican citizenship derived from birth to non-ambassadorial Mexican citizens/nationals abroad. Here are the correct details as I understand them, whether an eye roll back at you, or an apology is warranted: Mexican nationality law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Birth to illegal aliens in the United States, and whether that child gains the nationality/citizenship of the parents, should be expanded more to include almost all countries of the world, not just for Mexico...
Neither is warranted, you are attempting to cherry pick info to suit your claim.
At issue is a Mexican government requirement that any official document from another country be certified inside that country with a seal known as an "apostille," then be translated by a certified, and often expensive, translator in Mexico.....Many of the Mexican parents of U.S. children were not aware of Mexico's paperwork requirement before they came back, so now tens of thousands are struggling to get their children's documents to the United States to be certified, and then returned to Mexico to be officially translated.
I would say there is no automatic citizenship by birth to a Mexican citizen outside of Mexico, but Mexican nationality is automatic. In this since Mexico's birth abroad pretty much falls in line with that of the US's, and most other nations around the world. Birth abroad to one of its citizens or nationals is automatic nationality but citizenship must be registered through the nationals consul in the nation of birth. It is pretty much the same around the world and includes just about all countries of the world.
This line from the article pretty much sums up the major issue
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missing official seals on the birth certificates.....the documents were no good because they were issued by a health departmentrather than a government records office, as is done in Mexico.
Even with those birth certificates they wouldn't be able to obtain a US status.
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Birth to illegal aliens in the United States, and whether that child gains the nationality/citizenship of the parents, should be expanded more to include almost all countries of the world, not just for Mexico...
Gee, I thought that was understood. In fact, I have never seen anyone post on this forum or others that specified only children born to Mexican illegals should not be conferred U.S. citizenship. I suspect you haven't either.
Gee, I thought that was understood. In fact, I have never seen anyone post on this forum or others that specified only children born to Mexican illegals should not be conferred U.S. citizenship. I suspect you haven't either.
You are inverting my statement here, the discussion has been that children born to Mexican citizen parents outside Mexico are not deriving that Mexican citizenship from them...
Yes, it's kind of pointless and idiotic to bring up events that took place 200 or 400 years ago and try to justify anything today. That would be like saying because someone's ancestors owned slaves, it's okay to own slaves today.
Bravo. Tried to rep you but must spread the wealth.
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