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Old 10-04-2012, 07:13 AM
 
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Since other responses indicate support, what is holding these "educated types" from immigrating?...

Still has to be a demand in the host country that cannot be met by people already there.

Also, the fact that it's harder to attract educated people, who have more options in their own countries, as well as other countries that also use "value to the country" means testing to accept immigrants - such as Canada.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:18 AM
 
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I just provided you examples from that same immigrating group, and countered with an example that was not from the largest group (there were more Irish immigrants than Germans in the primary years)...

How do you feel about community programs (and adult education organizations in some state universities) that teach English to immigrants?...

That was one other aspect to our "success" story: My wife attended a program run by our local public library, and finished with the highest score of the session...

In the picture of the students and instructors published in the local newspaper upon the course completion, you could see her smile for miles...
I think that immigrants should pay out of their own pockets to learn English. It shouldn't be taxpayer funded. That should be understood before they come here. IMO, immigrants should have some command of English are a requirement to migrate here.

I stand by what I said, assimilation to our language and culture isn't occuring in a timely manner because of the lack of diversity in our immigration numbers today. I commend your wife for being the exception to the rule. Hopefully she uses English as her primary language of usage especially out in mainstream. That is true assimilation, IMO.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:32 AM
 
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I think that immigrants should pay out of their own pockets to learn English. It shouldn't be taxpayer funded. That should be understood before they come here. IMO, immigrants should have some command of English are a requirement to migrate here.

I stand by what I said, assimilation to our language and culture isn't occuring in a timely manner because of the lack of diversity in our immigration numbers today. I commend your wife for being the exception to the rule. Hopefully she uses English as her primary language of usage especially out in mainstream. That is true assimilation, IMO.
Again, the classes like my wife took are funded by donations within the community. She was in attendance while she awaited work authorization (at that time, as a sponsor, I was the only one of my family allowed to work). Even for our "success" story you are putting criteria in place that we were unable to meet (not all of our family fully knew English at the time of immigration).

You've got to throw some bone out there so someone has a better chance of learning English...
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:04 AM
 
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Again, the classes like my wife took are funded by donations within the community. She was in attendance while she awaited work authorization (at that time, as a sponsor, I was the only one of my family allowed to work). Even for our "success" story you are putting criteria in place that we were unable to meet (not all of our family fully knew English at the time of immigration).

You've got to throw some bone out there so someone has a better chance of learning English...
No "bone" need to be thrown there. Back in the day people were HAPPY to move to the US and it was on THEM to learn English. Sheesh!
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:07 PM
 
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Again, the classes like my wife took are funded by donations within the community. She was in attendance while she awaited work authorization (at that time, as a sponsor, I was the only one of my family allowed to work). Even for our "success" story you are putting criteria in place that we were unable to meet (not all of our family fully knew English at the time of immigration).

You've got to throw some bone out there so someone has a better chance of learning English...
I wasn't attempting a guess at how your wife's English classes were funded. Private donations is a seperate issue from tax funded classes. I can't tell private enities (I guess that is whom you meant when you said community?) whom to donate money to but I would like to see them donate that money to poor Americans in some way instead.

Regardless of your success story I am not entitled to my opinion that immigrants should pay for their own English classes or have a working knowledge of English before they come here?
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